NCAA Rules Questions

[justanotherblue]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

reference, please (specifically for booo appeals)

obr, 6.07b, 6.07c, 6.07d.2
mlbum 5.2
ncaa 7.3, 7.11.4, 7.11.4

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by justanotherblue

obr, 6.07b, 6.07c, 6.07d.2
mlbum 5.2
ncaa 7.3, 7.11.4, 7.11.4

Those NCAA references make no sense.

7-11-a(2) does say "...an appeal is made ... before a pitch to the next batter of either team or a play or attempted play..."

(emphasis added).

It doesn't say anything about "Once the defence leaves the field all appeals are null and void" and the part of the rule I highlighted pretty clearly indicates that an appeal can be made after the half-inning has otherwise ended.

[Durham]

I do enjoy talking rules. You learn something new every day. I have a question I'll start in a little bit.

[Rich Ives]

Originally Posted by justanotherblue

obr, 6.07b, 6.07c, 6.07d.2
mlbum 5.2
ncaa 7.3, 7.11.4, 7.11.4

MLBUM 5.2 is about "normal" 7.10 appeal plays. This isn't one. BOO is covered in MLBUM 3.2.

6.07(b) says hen an improper batter becomes a runner or is put out, and the defensive team appeals to the umpire before the first pitch to the next batter of either team, or before any play or attempted play,

6.07(c) says When an improper batter becomes a runner or is put out, and a pitch is made to the next batter of either team before an appeal is made, the improper batter thereby becomes the proper batter, and the results of his time at bat become legal.

Nowhere is there mention of the defenders leaving the field.

[justanotherblue]

For the BOO appeal only, I've read and re-read, and I'll have to agree that leaving the field doesn't remove the potiential for an appeal by the wording of the rule. Another good quirk in the rules to remember.

[Durham]

Making mistakes is the best way to learn almost anything.

[justanotherblue]

Originally Posted by Durham

Making mistakes is the best way to learn almost anything.

Unlike many, I can man up when I'm wrong or made a mistake. I know I've read that before, but I, like many, had it as once you leave the field, you can't appeal. It's a easy change to add to my game.

[Durham]

One of the reasons that am lucky enough to do what I do is that I have made more mistakes than most and I have learned from them and from the mistakes of others as well. Some people often want to judge others by their mistakes. I just want to grow and learn from them. :0)

[yawetag]

Originally Posted by Durham

Making mistakes is the best way to learn almost anything.

Exception: skydiving

[justanotherblue]

FWIW...in Fed, it is when all defensive players leave the field. 7-1-2 Penalties 2. I still should have remembered/known the difference though. Damn.

[MrUmpire]

Originally Posted by yawetag

Exception: skydiving

And disarming explosives.

[UMP25]

Originally Posted by justanotherblue

For the BOO appeal only, I've read and re-read, and I'll have to agree that leaving the field doesn't remove the potiential for an appeal by the wording of the rule. Another good quirk in the rules to remember.

It's not so much a quirk in NCAA rules as it's an ambiguity. Where NCAA rules are unclear or not specific, they defer to OBR. Under OBR's official interpretation, for BOO that ends an inning, an appeal must be done before the first pitch to the opposing team.

This NCAA test question had two possible correct answers. Many people I know thought they answered it correctly but got the question wrong on their exams.