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[Spizzico]

Grazie BOB!!! I understand, but an ultimate question: what do u mean for "quality throw"?

[Rich Ives]

Originally Posted by Spizzico

Grazie BOB!!! I understand, but an ultimate question: what do u mean for "quality throw"?

Catchable with ordinary effort by the fielder taking the throw at first base. If the fielder has to leap, go after, dive, or whatever it isn't a quality throw. If he can't catch it at all it's not a quality throw.

With experience, you'll get a better feel for the game and it will become more and more obvious.

Good luck.

[pastordoug]

But what if the "quality throw" is not quality because of the BR running outside the lines.... Bunt, catcher comes out and feilds ball, BR is running outside the lines towards the pitchers mound, catcher comes up throwing and throws HIGH..... If if the opinion of the PU his throw was errant becasue of BR he's out for interference.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by pastordoug

But what if the "quality throw" is not quality because of the BR running outside the lines.... Bunt, catcher comes out and feilds ball, BR is running outside the lines towards the pitchers mound, catcher comes up throwing and throws HIGH..... If if the opinion of the PU his throw was errant becasue of BR he's out for interference.

OBR: no INT, play on
FED: INT

This is exactly the reason why FED wants INT here, regardless of the quality of throw. Catchers playing under OBR need to know to throw it to F3 even if it hits the BR.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by mbyron

OBR: no INT, play on
FED: INT

This is exactly the reason why FED wants INT here, regardless of the quality of throw. Catchers playing under OBR need to know to throw it to F3 even if it hits the BR.

Agreed.

But (for completeness), if BR was running on the foul side of the lane (the ball is fair in this play), and F2 makes an errant throw, BR is not out even in FED.

Too often I read, "If BR is out of the lane, he's out, evne on a non-quality throw" and that statement is just a little too broad.

[dash_riprock]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Agreed.

But (for completeness), if BR was running on the foul side of the lane (the ball is fair in this play), and F2 makes an errant throw, BR is not out even in FED.

Too often I read, "If BR is out of the lane, he's out, evne on a non-quality throw" and that statement is just a little too broad.

Right. The FED rule says the infraction is ignored if the B/R does not interfere with either the fielder or the throw. The rule needs no interpretation. Nevertheless, FED mucked it up when they tried to clarify that a runner need not be hit with the throw for INT to occur. It came out, as Bob said - if the B/R is out of the lane and if there is a throw, INT is presumed (no quality throw required). That's more than an interpretation - it's a rule change.

I think Tim C was at the board/committee meeting and reported the interp. on this forum. It might have emanated from Elliot Hopkins.

[DG]

It was an interp (throw over the head of F3), like in 2005. I don't recall seeing it in rule or in case book. If you can point me to it I will stand corrected, and thank you for the education.

[Spizzico]

but the OBR clarify that is interference only if the batter-runner INT with the taking of first baseman, not with the shot of the catcher....ex: the assistance of Catcher hit the body of batter-runner outside the line....is INT because that INT with the taking of first baseman.....is right???