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Spizzico Tue Jan 25, 2011 05:49am

the running line hitter-runner
 
Hi everybody,
I'm an italian umpire and if is possible i just wanna ask a suggest about a rule!Sorry about my english:)!
Which are the vision limits that an umpire-chief have to check to understand if the runner is or isn't in the running line.
The questions that i looking for an answer are:
if a player run with the left foot on the foul line,can be called interference or not?Do you look the runner's foot or all the body?

What I wanna understand,at the end, is when i have to call an interference!

PS I'm talking about the interference between the runner and the first base-man!

thanks!!!

yawetag Tue Jan 25, 2011 07:17am

If the runner's foot is completely outside the line (not touching it at all), he's guilty of interference.

mbyron Tue Jan 25, 2011 07:46am

Quote:

Originally Posted by yawetag (Post 721348)
If the runner's foot is completely outside the line (not touching it at all), and he hinders a quality throw to retire a runner at first base, then he's guilty of interference.

Fixed it for ya. ;)

Spizzico: merely stepping outside the lane is nothing until it creates a problem for the defense making a play at first base.

Welpe Tue Jan 25, 2011 09:25am

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Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 721355)
Fixed it for ya. ;)

That is only true for OBR and not Fed, is it not?

bob jenkins Tue Jan 25, 2011 09:57am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Welpe (Post 721382)
That is only true for OBR and not Fed, is it not?

It's partially true for FED (and I doubt spizzico does any FED ball).

mbyron Tue Jan 25, 2011 10:09am

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 721403)
It's partially true for FED (and I doubt spizzico does any FED ball).

Exactly.

FED nominally doesn't care about "quality throw," but I'm not sure why not.

Rich Tue Jan 25, 2011 10:26am

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Originally Posted by mbyron (Post 721408)
Exactly.

FED nominally doesn't care about "quality throw," but I'm not sure why not.

In practice, it doesn't really change how the game is called, though.

mbyron Tue Jan 25, 2011 12:29pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 721415)
In practice, it doesn't really change how the game is called, though.

I think I just said that. :D

ozzy6900 Tue Jan 25, 2011 12:45pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spizzico (Post 721338)
Hi everybody,
I'm an italian umpire and if is possible i just wanna ask a suggest about a rule!Sorry about my english:)!
Which are the vision limits that an umpire-chief have to check to understand if the runner is or isn't in the running line.
The questions that i looking for an answer are:
if a player run with the left foot on the foul line,can be called interference or not?Do you look the runner's foot or all the body?

What I wanna understand,at the end, is when i have to call an interference!

PS I'm talking about the interference between the runner and the first base-man!

thanks!!!

  • You do not call interference unless there actually is interference.
  • The batter-runner is responsible to remain in the lane from the 45 foot mark to the front of 1st base.
  • The Batter-runner is allowed to leave the running lane to touch 1st base.
  • The throw must be a quality throw (to be judged by the plate umpire.
  • The running lane does not come into play unless the throw is coming from behindthe batter-runner (so a throw from the 3rd baseman will not involve the running lane).
People, Spizzico is from Italy and they play OBR there. So lay off the FED & NCAA rulings and stick with what the guy is asking about.

Welpe Tue Jan 25, 2011 12:53pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 721403)
(and I doubt spizzico does any FED ball).

Good point, lost the context there, my apologies.

greymule Tue Jan 25, 2011 04:05pm

You'd fit in well umpiring softball around Trenton, New Jersey, Spizzico. On my 2008 ASA roster, the last names of more than half the 100+ umpires are Italian. Not as many here in Alabama, though.

Spizzico Tue Jan 25, 2011 04:08pm

What Does the FED and OBR? i don't understand

bob jenkins Tue Jan 25, 2011 04:27pm

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Originally Posted by Spizzico (Post 721606)
What Does the FED and OBR? i don't understand

OBR = Official Baseball Rules
FED = National Federation of High Schools rules

Rich Ives Tue Jan 25, 2011 04:52pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by ozzy6900 (Post 721508)
  • You do not call interference unless there actually is interference.
  • The batter-runner is responsible to remain in the lane from the 45 foot mark to the front of 1st base.
  • The Batter-runner is allowed to leave the running lane to touch 1st base.
  • The throw must be a quality throw (to be judged by the plate umpire.
  • The running lane does not come into play unless the throw is coming from behindthe batter-runner (so a throw from the 3rd baseman will not involve the running lane).
People, Spizzico is from Italy and they play OBR there. So lay off the FED & NCAA rulings and stick with what the guy is asking about.

The PBUC ruled (reported in the BRD) that the throw can be coming from anywhere.

Rich Tue Jan 25, 2011 04:53pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rich Ives (Post 721622)
The PBUC ruled (reported in the BRD) that the throw can be coming from anywhere.

And they can call it that way in their games, too.


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