Tampa Bay/NY Jeter HBP?

[KJUmp]

FWIW...When asked, Jeter admitted in a post game interview with a radio reporter that it hit the bat first (not that we didn't already know that after seeing the video). I heard a replay of that portion of the interview this morning on a local morning radio sports talk show.

[MrUmpire]

Originally Posted by KJUmp

FWIW...When asked, Jeter admitted in a post game interview with a radio reporter that it hit the bat first (not that we didn't already know that after seeing the video). I heard a replay of that portion of the interview this morning on a local morning radio sports talk show.

Did they play his answer in which he blamed the umpire for giving him first? A real class act.

[KJUmp]

Originally Posted by MrUmpire

Did they play his answer in which he blamed the umpire for giving him first? A real class act.

His answer was..."the umpire told me to go to first, I wasn't going to argue."

[NJump]

Name three, any three, MLB players who wouldn't try this exact same thing. If you can, it is because they are not quick enough to try. Plays like this abound in EVERY sport at every level. When was the last time anyone heard a player say, " It hit my bat first. I'll just stay here." The player is "selling", doesn't mean the official has to buy. Youtube has a college player acting like he needs a trip to ER, but the ump AIN'T buying. Last time I looked, one team tries to beat the other. How they try is why there are officials. And RULES. If you ain't breaking the rules, then you are SIMPLY trying to win. What a concept!!!

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by NJump

Plays like this abound in EVERY sport at every level.

The soccer player who takes a dive after minor contact, if any, and stays on the ground, rolling around in pain trying to get a penalty against his opponent.

The basketball defender who takes the charge on the player going down the lane falling into a gruesome heap even though he was barely touched in order to draw the charge.

The football player who catches the ball on the short hop and comes up holding it high for everyone to see proving he caught it even though he knows he didn't.

The hockey player who leaps in the air and slides half-way down the ice on an “obvious” trip.

Is this because it's Derek Cheater? A Yankee? A superstar?

[txump81]

Didn't have a chance to read this whole discussion, but here is my .02.

Good sell by Jeter. As an umpire, you should use more than your eyes to make calls. I heard the crack of ball meeting bat pretty clear on the video. So no HBP. When Jeter starts hopping around, I would probably give him a HBP, but the ball hit the bat first, so "Strike". It's all part of the game.

I would have liked to hear the conversation between Jeter and the trainer.

"Where'd it get you?"
"Right here on the hand"
"I don't see any bruising or feel any fractured bones."
"Well that @#$%^&* hurt."
"I'll be OK"

Maybe it was premeditated and the trainer was in on it?!? What's the difference in this and a fielder making a "tag" but missing the runner and then throwing to the next base for a double play. A good fielder will sell the tag.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by txump81

Didn't have a chance to read this whole discussion, but here is my .02.

Good sell by Jeter. As an umpire, you should use more than your eyes to make calls. I heard the crack of ball meeting bat pretty clear on the video. So no HBP. When Jeter starts hopping around, I would probably give him a HBP, but the ball hit the bat first, so "Strike". It's all part of the game.

I would have liked to hear the conversation between Jeter and the trainer.

"Where'd it get you?"
"Right here on the hand"
"I don't see any bruising or feel any fractured bones."
"Well that @#$%^&* hurt."
"I'll be OK"

Maybe it was premeditated and the trainer was in on it?!? What's the difference in this and a fielder making a "tag" but missing the runner and then throwing to the next base for a double play. A good fielder will sell the tag.

Except that a ball hitting a hand sounds very much like a ball hitting a bat. No way the PU can use sound to rule out it hitting Jeter's hand.

[MrUmpire]

Originally Posted by KJUmp

His answer was..."the umpire told me to go to first, I wasn't going to argue."

Now play that audio while watching the video of him holding his arm, grimacing in "pain" and having a trainer check him out for a hit to the wrist that didn't happen. Yep, a real class act.

[yawetag]

Watching the replay (link on the OP), it appears the ball MIGHT have hit Jeter's elbow before hitting the bat, then it hits his hip.

I have no problem with Jeter's antics. He's doing what all ball players do in that situation.