How do they know not to call a balk.

[umpjim]

Glimpsed Gustavo Chavin of the Astros tonite and bit my tongue at first look. After watching a while I could talk myself out of the balk. He even has a different set with R2. My video won't show that.
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[johnnyg08]

Good video clip. It would be tough to not balk.

[ozzy6900]

Sorry, I did not see a balk at all.

[Mrumpiresir]

He stopped twice. Balk.

[Rich Ives]

Originally Posted by Mrumpiresir

He stopped twice. Balk.

No he didn't. He stoppped his hands twice, but during the first hand stop he kept other body parts moving. He didn't get the total stop until the glove was at his waist.

[dash_riprock]

He does it every time.
It's part of his natural motion.
He's not deceiving anyone.
No other ump has called it.

Nevertheless, I don't have a balk either.

[Mrumpiresir]

Originally Posted by Rich Ives

No he didn't. He stoppped his hands twice, but during the first hand stop he kept other body parts moving. He didn't get the total stop until the glove was at his waist.

Disagree. He comes to a total stop at 003, and again sets. Apparently the MLB umpires are letting him get away with it but in a HS or Legion game I'm balking him every time.

[johnnyg08]

Originally Posted by ozzy6900

Sorry, I did not see a balk at all.

Really? You're telling me that if you saw that move for the very first time, you wouldn't say that he set twice? In a way it reminds me of Mussina's...but from the left.

[Steven Tyler]

Originally Posted by johnnyg08

Really? You're telling me that if you saw that move for the very first time, you wouldn't say that he set twice? In a way it reminds me of Mussina's...but from the left.

In the real world, a balk.

In the MLB world, not a balk.

BTW-That is in no way, shape or form compared to what Mike Mussina did while in the set position....

[umpjim]

The way I talked myself out of it was while stretching and coming to a stop above around the head his leg was continuously (well maybe not) moving or twitching to the to the set position. Once you see it once you can ignore it and obviously nobody is running on the first stop. It's a different game than the one we are calling exceopt maybe for ozzy6900.

[Tim C]

Everything posted by Ozzy, mbyron and dash makes perfect sense in MLB.

There is no way the video shows a complete stop (not good enough detail without filling in your own opinion).

This would never be called a balk at any upper level.

T

[ozzy6900]

Gentlemen, this is a MLB pitcher in a MLB game, not a youth game. You will not get any self respecting MLB umpire calling this. You want to call this in Babe Ruth, LL (big diamond) or Legion, be my guest but if you work with adults, you better not even think of it.

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by ozzy6900

Gentlemen, this is a MLB pitcher in a MLB game, not a youth game. You will not get any self respecting MLB umpire calling this. You want to call this in Babe Ruth, LL (big diamond) or Legion, be my guest but if you work with adults, you better not even think of it.

Are you saying not to call this at the college level? Those are adults.

Peace

[MrUmpire]

I wouldn't call this in an NCAA game or any game. The first move some are seeing as a stop is not, in my opinion, a complete stop that I would allow if it were the only "stop".

[Steven Tyler]

I was looking at his left knee buckle while he came to his second stop of the hands. His hands were moving down as the knee bent ever so slightly.