The Official Forum  

Go Back   The Official Forum > Baseball
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old Fri Jul 11, 2008, 11:30am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 105
Balk Call

I only do summer baseball and I am by no means a "Balkologist". Last night Cal Ripken tournament R1 on first. Pitcher comes set, R1 takes off to second and before the pitch the pitcher spins and throws to second base.

R1 now gets tagged out between 1st and 2nd. I am on bases and I initially call the runner out. Offensive coach questions that it should have been a balk.
I get together with my partner and reverse the out and call a balk because the pitcher did not step back off of the rubber and threw to an unoccupied base.

Correct?
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old Fri Jul 11, 2008, 11:34am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: At the base of the mountains
Posts: 377
Nope, wrong. A pitcher may throw to an unoccupied base if it is to put out an advancing runner as in this situation, or to perform a proper appeal. As long as the pitcher turned in one fluid, continuous motion, then no balk. Had the runner deeked his advance, then you would have a balk.

Last edited by justanotherblue; Fri Jul 11, 2008 at 11:36am.
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old Fri Jul 11, 2008, 11:48am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 105
Thanks for clarifying that. Not being a true "Balkologist", I thought I was right but my partner insisted it was a balk so I went with it.
The kid we advanced actually then tried to steal third and was thrown out, so it was a moot point for the out.
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old Fri Jul 11, 2008, 12:13pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,230
Quote:
Originally Posted by 3SPORT
Thanks for clarifying that. Not being a true "Balkologist", I thought I was right but my partner insisted it was a balk so I went with it.
The kid we advanced actually then tried to steal third and was thrown out, so it was a moot point for the out.
Amazing how the baseball gods work Everything ends up square in the end

-Josh
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old Fri Jul 11, 2008, 12:37pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: NY state
Posts: 1,504
Quote:
Originally Posted by jdmara
Amazing how the baseball gods work Everything ends up square in the end

-Josh
Except now the coaches either believe a misinterpretation of the rule, or think that umpires are idiots.
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old Fri Jul 11, 2008, 12:57pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: NY
Posts: 1,428
Quote:
Originally Posted by justanotherblue
Had the runner deeked his advance, then you would have a balk.
FED & NCAA are more lenient here. If the throw (or feint) is to drive back a runner (FED) or prevent the runner from advancing (NCAA) it is legal.
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old Fri Jul 11, 2008, 01:45pm
Stop staring at me swan.
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 2,974
that rule interp in the OP is one of the most misunderstood...I won a protest off of an attepted steal of 3B last season...

years ago, i nearly got ejected for arguing a call that was blown by an umpire on a player stealing 3B and my player (F1) threw to 3B and he was balked...
__________________
It's like Deja Vu all over again
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old Fri Jul 11, 2008, 02:15pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Posts: 1,230
Quote:
Originally Posted by MrUmpire
Except now the coaches either believe a misinterpretation of the rule, or think that umpires are idiots.
They already thought the umpire were idiots

-Josh
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old Fri Jul 11, 2008, 08:54pm
JJ JJ is offline
Veteran College Umpire
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: IN
Posts: 1,122
How to avoid these kinds of situations -

Rule books! Case books! Clinics! Questions for interpreters! Camps! Mentors! Official Forum!



JJ
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Balk Call radwaste50 Baseball 1 Mon May 07, 2007 02:43am
Balk Call Pags Sr. Baseball 11 Sun May 21, 2006 09:12am
balk call? livtrav Baseball 13 Wed Jun 08, 2005 04:20pm
Do you call this a balk? gmtomko Baseball 5 Mon Apr 21, 2003 05:35am
Call the balk or not edhern Baseball 2 Sun Mar 31, 2002 12:23am


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:35am.



Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0 RC1