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Old Thu Jul 22, 2010, 09:29am
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Batter/Runner Int.

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Bases loaded, no outs. Ground ball to third baseman who steps on third then throws to first. His throw is up the line and the batter/runner is called out for interfering with the throw.

Ruling?
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Old Thu Jul 22, 2010, 09:51am
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Situation:

Bases loaded, no outs. Ground ball to third baseman who steps on third then throws to first. His throw is up the line and the batter/runner is called out for interfering with the throw.

Ruling?
BR out for INT. R3 returns to 3B, R2 is out on the force, R1 returns to 1B. Next batter, 2 outs.

You might quibble about TOI, but if the play develops fast enough to involve the BR at 1B, I'm not letting R3 score. If R1 was going on the pitch (maybe on a 3-2 count) he might get to stay at 2B.
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Old Thu Jul 22, 2010, 10:16am
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Is there any situation where F3 can be called for OBS in this scenario? (i.e.: the throw is clearly beyond the reach of F3 and he impedes the BR from reach 1B or advancing to 2B.)
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Old Thu Jul 22, 2010, 01:35pm
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Is there any situation where F3 can be called for OBS in this scenario? (i.e.: the throw is clearly beyond the reach of F3 and he impedes the BR from reach 1B or advancing to 2B.)
If F3 is playing the throw near the base and contacts the BR, that's not OBS in any code. Collisions that involve legal contact both ways are possible when the ball, fielder, and runner arrive at the same time at a base.

If the throw is nowhere near the base and F3 hinders the BR on his way to fetch the ball, that would likely be OBS.
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Old Thu Jul 22, 2010, 02:22pm
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If F3 is playing the throw near the base and contacts the BR, that's not OBS in any code.
It could be, in FED.

And, to the OP, maybe (and I'm just exploring the possible), BR moved out of his path to get in the way of the throw, or stuck his arm out, or swiped at F3 causing him to miss the ball, ...

It doesn't have to be running-lane interference.
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Old Thu Jul 22, 2010, 10:23am
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"You might quibble about TOI . . ."

I don't think so. INT by BR before reaching 1B returns runners TOP, except in that rare case of the intervening play at home.

For example, with 1 out, R3 scores on a suicide squeeze, but BR runs outside the lane and is hit by F2's throw to F3. BR out, R3 returns, even though he crossed the plate well before the INT.
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Old Thu Jul 22, 2010, 10:58am
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Unless he violates the following:

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Rule 6.05(k) In running the last half of the distance from home base to first base, while the ball is being fielded to first base, he runs outside (to the right of) the three foot line, or inside (to the left of) the foul line, and in the umpire's judgment in so doing interferes with the fielder taking the throw at first base; except that he may run outside (to the right of) the three foot line or inside (to the left of) the foul line to avoid a fielder attempting to field a batted ball;
Off the top of my head, this would be the only scenario which comes to mind where I have the Batter/runner being called out.
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Old Thu Jul 22, 2010, 12:22pm
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Unless he violates the following:

Rule 6.05(k) In running the last half of the distance from home base to first base, while the ball is being fielded to first base, he runs outside (to the right of) the three foot line, or inside (to the left of) the foul line, and in the umpire's judgment in so doing interferes with the fielder taking the throw at first base; except that he may run outside (to the right of) the three foot line or inside (to the left of) the foul line to avoid a fielder attempting to field a batted ball;

Off the top of my head, this would be the only scenario which comes to mind where I have the Batter/runner being called out.
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The batter-runner is permitted to exit the three-foot lane by means of a step, stride, reach, or slide in the immediate vicinity of first base for the sole purpose of touching first base.
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Wow. Running lane interference is almost always from F2, and rarely from F1. Not sure I've ever seen or considered it called from 3rd base. BR must have been WAY inside the baseline for this call to be made.
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Old Thu Jul 22, 2010, 10:22am
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Situation:

Bases loaded, no outs. Ground ball to third baseman who steps on third then throws to first. His throw is up the line and the batter/runner is called out for interfering with the throw.

Ruling?
It was probably a bad one. Bad throw pulls the fielder into the runner's path and it's the runner's fault?
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Old Thu Jul 22, 2010, 11:22am
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It was probably a bad one. Bad throw pulls the fielder into the runner's path and it's the runner's fault?
Not disputing that at all. Personally, I would not make this call but it did happen and there was a dispute on where to put the runners.
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