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Batter/Runner Int.
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Bases loaded, no outs. Ground ball to third baseman who steps on third then throws to first. His throw is up the line and the batter/runner is called out for interfering with the throw. Ruling? |
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You might quibble about TOI, but if the play develops fast enough to involve the BR at 1B, I'm not letting R3 score. If R1 was going on the pitch (maybe on a 3-2 count) he might get to stay at 2B. |
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Is there any situation where F3 can be called for OBS in this scenario? (i.e.: the throw is clearly beyond the reach of F3 and he impedes the BR from reach 1B or advancing to 2B.) |
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"You might quibble about TOI . . ."
I don't think so. INT by BR before reaching 1B returns runners TOP, except in that rare case of the intervening play at home. For example, with 1 out, R3 scores on a suicide squeeze, but BR runs outside the lane and is hit by F2's throw to F3. BR out, R3 returns, even though he crossed the plate well before the INT. |
Unless he violates the following:
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The batter-runner is permitted to exit the three-foot lane by means of a step, stride, reach, or slide in the immediate vicinity of first base for the sole purpose of touching first base. |
Wow. Running lane interference is almost always from F2, and rarely from F1. Not sure I've ever seen or considered it called from 3rd base. BR must have been WAY inside the baseline for this call to be made.
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I would not call RLI on a play from F5 involving contact between F3 and BR -- the BR is allowed to be in fair territory that close to the base. |
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If the throw is nowhere near the base and F3 hinders the BR on his way to fetch the ball, that would likely be OBS. |
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And, to the OP, maybe (and I'm just exploring the possible), BR moved out of his path to get in the way of the throw, or stuck his arm out, or swiped at F3 causing him to miss the ball, ... It doesn't have to be running-lane interference. |
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The reason I assumed RLI was this " His throw is up the line and the batter/runner is called out for interfering with the throw." I'm seeing up the line and BR being way into the infield for this to be a valid INT. I think it likely the bad call was the INT itself! Can't see this really happening. |
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You have no basis (other than your own, apparently limited, imagination) for making this judgement. More to the point, it has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the question posed in the OP. The question was if there WERE interference (suspend all disbelief as to whether or not this was a "correct" call), what would the proper ruling be? To argue whether or not this actually WAS interference is a complete waste of time, because there was not sufficient information supplied to determine whether it properly was or wasn't - so all you can do is engage in baseless speculation on that question. However, there was (nearly) sufficient information to discuss the actual question asked. In FED, the "basic" rule (to which there ARE a couple of exceptions) is that runners return to the base occupied at the TOI. So, in a FED game, if the R3 had scored at the time the interference occurred, his run WOULD score (unless the interference were the 3rd out of the half inning). In OBR, if the interference occurs before the BR has reached 1B, any remainng runners return to their TOP base. UNLESS there was an "intervening play" by the defense that occurred between the TOP and TOI. In which case, runners also return to their TOI base. Now greymule was the first person on this thread to mention the "intervening play" exception under OBR. He suggests that it only applies if the "intervening play" occurred at home/on a runner attempting to score. While EVERY published case play touching on the question in the official/authoritative interpretation manuals does, in fact, involve a play at HP - without exception, NONE of them explicitly states that the intervening play MUST occur at home for the exception to apply - again without exception. So, I am unsure whether the play on R2 at 3B would "count" as an intervening play under OBR rules. If it doesn't, I would think you would have to return the "apparently retired" R2 to 2B if you negate the R3's score and return him to 3B. JM |
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