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Old Sat Jul 17, 2010, 09:48am
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Lets see here , the manager decided he should come out of the dugout to try and show up U1.

Was it Fair or Foul?

I think when an official is able to put his self-ego aside and correctly make a ruling by the book rather than some preconceived macho idea of how he is being perceived, then he truly understands what he is out there for.

If the ball was truly fair, and it could be confirmed, then this was the right call for this situation.
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Old Sat Jul 17, 2010, 12:19pm
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If this wasn't the first batter of the game, the call would not have been reveresed. What I mean by that is, the field was still perfectly groomed, and all parties could clearly see the ball mark on the line.

Another point: The Oakland manager and firstbase coach DID NOT protest vehemently or "show up" the umpire. Not at all. In fact, they were low-key and professional about the whole thing.

The correct call was made. Great job, Blue.
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Old Mon Jul 19, 2010, 11:04am
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Lets see here , the manager decided he should come out of the dugout to try and show up U1.

Was it Fair or Foul?

I think when an official is able to put his self-ego aside and correctly make a ruling by the book rather than some preconceived macho idea of how he is being perceived, then he truly understands what he is out there for.

If the ball was truly fair, and it could be confirmed, then this was the right call for this situation.
Frame that!!

Great stuff.
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Old Mon Jul 19, 2010, 01:22pm
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I don't have a rulebook in front of me, but most codes have some sort of verbage that states runners may be placed on bases, outs may be assessed or erased which put a team at a disadvantage in the event an umpires' decision is changed.
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Old Mon Jul 19, 2010, 02:40pm
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I don't have a rulebook in front of me, but most codes have some sort of verbage that states runners may be placed on bases, outs may be assessed or erased which put a team at a disadvantage in the event an umpires' decision is changed.
We are not talking about a situation where any change is made, we are talking about a play that stops everything like a foul call. And at least the NF says that once a ball is called foul, you cannot take it back. I cannot off the bat speak for the other codes at this time. And other than this situation I have never heard anyone consider this kind of play to be up for debate even if it was wrong. This takes that power too far in my opinion.

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