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Old Sat Jul 17, 2010, 12:32am
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Umps reverse foul/fair call in Friday’s A’s/Royals game...

...have never seen this at any level, so very surprised this would happen at the MLB. You can watch the video here but I’m stumped as to reason why the call was reversed and why the batter-runner was awarded second. There was an observation that since the fielder picked up the ball and tossed it into the stands, he made the ball dead and thus the two base award. Look forward to hearing your thoughts...
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Old Sat Jul 17, 2010, 12:54am
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Wow, as some have posted earlier about these things..."A Brave New World."

They gave him a double because that's probably where we would've ended up.

I don't think throwing the ball in the stands had anything to do with where they placed the B/R.

There's my .02. good post.
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Old Sat Jul 17, 2010, 07:02am
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I agree that he probably would have gotten to 2B. However, I thought it could only be changed if the call had no affect on how the play developed. It clearly did here b/c Crisp stopped running and the defense stopped play on the ball.

Also, I guess there is no "get your own calls" anymore. I am really beginning to dislike some of the precedences being set by MLB. I understand he was moving out of the way. But, he was about 2 feet from the ball. HP was about 110 feet away. Whose call is it?

It should have been left as a foul ball. The batter didn't even think about arguing the call. He was getting ready to hit again. I guess there weren't any EJ on the other side.
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Old Sat Jul 17, 2010, 07:19am
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It seems to be consistent with the new rule. As I posted elsewhere, someday this will bite them in the a$$. I agree that they have gone too far (imo).
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Old Sat Jul 17, 2010, 09:48am
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Lets see here , the manager decided he should come out of the dugout to try and show up U1.

Was it Fair or Foul?

I think when an official is able to put his self-ego aside and correctly make a ruling by the book rather than some preconceived macho idea of how he is being perceived, then he truly understands what he is out there for.

If the ball was truly fair, and it could be confirmed, then this was the right call for this situation.
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Old Sat Jul 17, 2010, 12:19pm
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If this wasn't the first batter of the game, the call would not have been reveresed. What I mean by that is, the field was still perfectly groomed, and all parties could clearly see the ball mark on the line.

Another point: The Oakland manager and firstbase coach DID NOT protest vehemently or "show up" the umpire. Not at all. In fact, they were low-key and professional about the whole thing.

The correct call was made. Great job, Blue.
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Old Mon Jul 19, 2010, 11:04am
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Lets see here , the manager decided he should come out of the dugout to try and show up U1.

Was it Fair or Foul?

I think when an official is able to put his self-ego aside and correctly make a ruling by the book rather than some preconceived macho idea of how he is being perceived, then he truly understands what he is out there for.

If the ball was truly fair, and it could be confirmed, then this was the right call for this situation.
Frame that!!

Great stuff.
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Old Sat Jul 17, 2010, 03:56pm
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It seems to be consistent with the new rule. As I posted elsewhere, someday this will bite them in the a$$. I agree that they have gone too far (imo).
When you make the big leagues you can obviate your opinion to all whom it may concern. As long as they are consistent, I don't see where there is any problem at all. My thoughts and opinion are (deleted).
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Old Sat Jul 17, 2010, 10:39pm
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This is the reason baseball is going to the dogs. This is ridiculousness to make this call and arbitrarily decide that a runner would had been. What do they do if there were runners on base, just decide who what have been there on a missed call. This has nothing to do with ego, this has to do with common sense. Because who is to say the runner would not have made third.

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