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Principally PONY, but also travel ball and the other stuff that springs from those programs. Whatever the league affiliation, it is critical that a young player learn base running and pitching with runners on base way before he is 13. Playing in a ballpark with realistic outfield fence distances also is a critical element.
I'm from Southern California. Here, Little League players have little chance of being a high school player, and no chance at all at a competitive high school. It's been that way around here for about a dozen years, now. And it is becoming that way most everywhere. I have literally seen one Little Leaguer make it at a competitive local high school. He was the ace on the Thousand Oaks team that won Williamsport. He didn't start until he was a senior, and only made it at all because he was a left-handed pitcher. I'm sorry that's the way it is, but it's just the way it works these years. |
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I think the real difference it the quality of the coaches teaching the game. I've umpired in the surrounding PONY leagues, and it's just not there, for whatever reason. They're just not savvy. I truly believe that good coaching is passed down year to year within a league, no matter the affiliation. |
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Sorry Kevin, as well as your examples for S. Calif. may support your threads here, I don't believe it is indicative of the entire HS, College or Pro community.
Good talent does not always begin at 11, 12 or 13 and High School is certainly not the only judge of good talent in a ballplayers career. Your supporting facts may or may not be true for where you live but, I don't believe it is for all areas. JMO |
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WHY? It's maybe two days of practice to teach that stuff.
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That speaks to the quality of LL coaching.
Back in the days when a computer took up its own room, our Babe Ruth coach spent much more time coaching these critical parts of the game. Perhaps surprisingly to you, high school and college coaches continued our education in these areas. Maybe someone should have told them that it takes maybe two days. It would have saved us a lot of work. Last edited by MrUmpire; Sun Jul 18, 2010 at 10:27am. |
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Kevin, your begining to sound like a New Yorker. They believe that the world is not flat or round. It just doesn't exist outside the city limits of New York.
So let me highlite the key words for you! So.California represents approximately 1.4% of the United States in area and 3.5 % in population. In the last statistics course I took, these numbers hardly justify being represenative for the norm. But as a resident of So. Cal. if you wish to believe otherwise, Happy Birthday to you. |
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They also supply a disproportionate amount of better baseball players, as does Florida and the Dominican Republic.
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Listen we can both argue statistics until were blue in the face, I am just saying that what is typical in So. Cal. doesn't necessarly hold true for the rest of the country. |
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CA 14 (76-79, 91-94) FL 6 GA, HI 3 AZ, IN, TX 2 AL, CT, KY, RI, NJ, PA, WA 1 Expected correlation matches your statement. Winning has nothing to do with weather, population, or D1 schools. The LL ball is topnotch here and teams do well in playoffs. It is good experience for an umpire. Last year McCallister Park next door went to the show.
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1) How to lead off and not get picked off doing it. 2) ???? 3) ???? 4) ????
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But how does less than half fall to almost no one from a LL program makes it to high school ball in S Calif, unless they happen to be the star pitcher on a LLWS championship team? Highly interesting, but very doubtful.
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