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3.06 & 3.07 are very clear and understandable. But, 3.08 seems to say there is no penalty for violating 3.06. I would like for some more senior umpires weigh in on this. We had a specific situation in a Cal Ripkin 10U tournament this weekend where a substitute batter was reported to the umpire and consequently reported to the official scorer by the umpire, but when his place came up in the batting order, the original starter batted instead of the substitute. Since (at least in Ripkin Ball) that batter (the starting batter) would have been able to re-enter legally, was this a violation or simply an unreported substitution that would be covered by 3.08 (a2). |
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I've never seen anything like that, but then again I don't work 10U. I frankly don't know why any umpire would fret about subs at that level.
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If it's a legal reentry...I would consider it an unreported sub...unless I missed something when I read it I'm assuming that the subs are in the correct places and minus "reporting" the reentry, everything else would be legal.
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When someone not in the lineup (in this case, the original starter) bats in place of someone, it is an issue of substitution.
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If umpire will only accept offensive subs when they occur this will not be so likely. |
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Reason #729 not to accept projected substitutions.
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I don't see anyone who hasn't understood that, and whether re-entry ios legal or not, the OP is an issue of substitution, not of BOOT.
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So what I'm getting from all the comments is that:
A) even though 3.06 was violated, 3.08 says there is no actual penalty. B) maybe the umpire could have been more vigilant on when to accept the substitutions from the manager. C) as long as nobody is BOOT, play on. |
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I got into it with a team last year about a legal unreported sub.
I said, that "yes, they should've told me" but there's no penalty if they don't and it's legal.
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