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Originally Posted by rbmartin
We had a specific situation in a Cal Ripkin 10U tournament this weekend where a substitute batter was reported to the umpire and consequently reported to the official scorer by the umpire, but when his place came up in the batting order, the original starter batted instead of the substitute. Since (at least in Ripkin Ball) that batter (the starting batter) would have been able to re-enter legally, was this a violation or simply an unreported substitution that would be covered by 3.08 (a2).
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First of all, the batting substitution should not be accepted from the mgr until the new batter is actually coming to bat. It sounds like a "projected substitution" occcured since you say "when his place came up in the batting order". Unlike a pitcher, who must pitch to one batter or side retired while he is pitching, a batter does not have to complete an at bat, he could be substitute for while at bat, or after he is announced. So if sub is announced and original starter bats it seems to me that the mgr just burned a sub, without making an appearance, since the original starter can re-enter, unannounced, which is not legal, but there is no penalty for it. In CR there are no minimum participation requirements so burning a sub is not illegal.
If umpire will only accept offensive subs when they occur this will not be so likely.