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Old Tue Jun 29, 2010, 12:52pm
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New 3 Man Mechanics?

I saw this in an American Association game about two weeks ago.

No runners on and batter hits a hard ground ball between the bag and F5. U2 points the ball fair and turns as the ball is rolling down into the LF corner. U2 then immediately starts chasing the ball down into the corner. U1 comes in and pivots and takes the BR into second. HPU just stands at home.

My question is why did U2 chase the ball down into the corner and HPU stay at home? I don't recall ever seeing an umpire go out on a ground ball before.

I suppose the crew reverted back to two man when the U2 went out and U1 would have take the BR into third. Should HPU have been at 3B?
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Old Tue Jun 29, 2010, 12:57pm
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I saw this in an American Association game about two weeks ago.

No runners on and batter hits a hard ground ball between the bag and F5. U2 points the ball fair and turns as the ball is rolling down into the LF corner. U2 then immediately starts chasing the ball down into the corner. U1 comes in and pivots and takes the BR into second. HPU just stands at home.

My question is why did U2 chase the ball down into the corner and HPU stay at home? I don't recall ever seeing an umpire go out on a ground ball before.

I suppose the crew reverted back to two man when the U2 went out and U1 would have take the BR into third. Should HPU have been at 3B?
Was there a possibility that the ball could have gotten lodged in something down the third base line?
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WHat field? Are their ground rule / DBA issues in left field at that field? I think you know the answers to the other questions.
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Old Tue Jun 29, 2010, 01:01pm
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My question is why did U2 chase the ball down into the corner and HPU stay at home?
If there's "trouble" in the corner (gate, tarp, fans, etc.), then the umpire should chase the ball.

When an umpire goes out, the others revert to two-person.
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Old Tue Jun 29, 2010, 01:27pm
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My question is why did U2 chase the ball down into the corner and HPU stay at home? I don't recall ever seeing an umpire go out on a ground ball before.
Depends upon the field. Also, it's better to be "safe then sorry" meaning perhaps this umpire thought there could be "trouble" out in the LF corner somewhere so he followed the ball.

You still have 2 umpires left so the 2 umpires who are left simply revert back to 2 man mechanics.

Since we only have one runner U1 would take the BR all the way around just like he would in 2 man. The PU stays home.

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Old Tue Jun 29, 2010, 02:53pm
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We are instructed to take the ball if there is a possibility of the ball going into trouble spots or possible fan interference. Some parks have funky areas where the ball could get hung up, dead ball areas, or fans close to the field. As stated earlier, when U2 goes out, it reverts to 2 man and U1 has the BR into third.
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Old Thu Jul 01, 2010, 07:37am
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BTW its U3...

and yes he was going down following it in case it gets lodged or touched by a fan. Was this game in Pensacola?
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Old Fri Jul 02, 2010, 03:03pm
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We are instructed to take the ball if there is a possibility of the ball going into trouble spots or possible fan interference. Some parks have funky areas where the ball could get hung up, dead ball areas, or fans close to the field. As stated earlier, when U2 goes out, it reverts to 2 man and U1 has the BR into third.
The reason I asked is because I have seen similar hits that U2 didn't go out on at the same ballpark. I've worked just maybe four or five games of three man and wasn't sure if the mechanic was something that had been added recently. The only thing that would have made the it a trouble ball was is that there is a tunnel down the left field line that goes under a walkway and the players exit to the playing field.

It didn't look like it would even come close to the tunnel. I suppose it was a case of preventive umpiring.
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The reason I asked is because I have seen similar hits that U2 didn't go out on at the same ballpark. I've worked just maybe four or five games of three man and wasn't sure if the mechanic was something that had been added recently. The only thing that would have made the it a trouble ball was is that there is a tunnel down the left field line that goes under a walkway and the players exit to the playing field.

It didn't look like it would even come close to the tunnel. I suppose it was a case of preventive umpiring.
Different U3's, different hits = different results.

Or, one or more of them may have been mis-read.
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Old Sat Jul 03, 2010, 08:21am
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I've been told before that if you have to point it fair, stay with the ball. Overly simplifying it but effective. This was a pregame so we all knew how it would work (that day).
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The reason I asked is because I have seen similar hits that U2 didn't go out on at the same ballpark. I've worked just maybe four or five games of three man and wasn't sure if the mechanic was something that had been added recently. The only thing that would have made the it a trouble ball was is that there is a tunnel down the left field line that goes under a walkway and the players exit to the playing field.

It didn't look like it would even come close to the tunnel. I suppose it was a case of preventive umpiring.
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