MS North Half Playoffs

[ManInBlue]

Originally Posted by ozzy6900

Yawn!

I'd appreciate some respect for the boys. You may not give a damn because it didn't happen in New England. If one team was in your back yard and the other wasn't far down the road, you might change your tune.

I was posting a contraversy that happened this week in HS baseball - if you don't care - don't reply. It's a rather big deal here. I left out names so as not to make it personally about {insert coach's name} (anyone in MS can figure it out) and call him an idiot world wide (even if it's true).

[stratref]

Originally Posted by ManInBlue

I'd appreciate some respect for the boys. You may not give a damn because it didn't happen in New England. If one team was in your back yard and the other wasn't far down the road, you might change your tune.

I was posting a contraversy[sic] that happened this week in HS baseball - if you don't care - don't reply. It's a rather big deal here. I left out names so as not to make it personally about {insert coach's name} (anyone in MS can figure it out) and call him an idiot world wide (even if it's true).

I am guessing he is yawning in response to the fact that this has NOTHING to do with officiating/umpiring the game. This is not a high school sports site, we discuss high school sports mostly because that is what a majority of us officiate. If you want to discuss a topic like this go to rivals.com or some other similar site.

This site is about officiating.

What respect for the boys are you talking about, I have heard of administrative forfeits in my local area but they don't belong here. If I wanted to talk about them I would go to a newspaper message board or a rivals.com message board. If the forfeit had something to do with too many players getting tossed or having the UIC forfeit the game (correctly or incorrectly) we would have something to discuss, but beyond that you sound like the fanboys we make fun of and have removed, just with no team (mentioned) to be a fan of.

Jasper

[ManInBlue]

Originally Posted by stratref

I am guessing he is yawning in response to the fact that this has NOTHING to do with officiating/umpiring the game.

If that's the case then I apologize for mis-interpretting it.

This is not a high school sports site, we discuss high school sports mostly because that is what a majority of us officiate. If you want to discuss a topic like this go to rivals.com or some other similar site.

This site is about officiating.

What respect for the boys are you talking about, I have heard of administrative forfeits in my local area but they don't belong here. If I wanted to talk about them I would go to a newspaper message board or a rivals.com message board. If the forfeit had something to do with too many players getting tossed or having the UIC forfeit the game (correctly or incorrectly) we would have something to discuss, but beyond that you sound like the fanboys we make fun of and have removed, just with no team (mentioned) to be a fan of.

Jasper

The respect I asked for came from my interpretation of "yawn." The way I read it showed no respect for them. It was "I don't care." (see above comment if I mis-interpretted ozzy's reply).

I posted this here "to discuss" because I AM an official. If I wanted to discuss fan-boy biased opinions, I would post on a newspaper site or rivals or some other site. I wanted to share a HS baseball situation that is close to home, with those I respect (most of the people here qualify).

Not the place? Delete it. Run me? For what - posting something about HS baseball? For the record, I'm a fan of BOTH teams in the situation. I've been around here too long to be lumped in with the Johnny-come lately "fans" that show up. Everyone here knows that.

I'm done defending it. Ozzy, if I misunderstood your post, I apologize sincerely.

[stratref]

Fair enough, I do enjoy reading most of the posts that come to this board, even when off topic. I just didn't see the reason to jump on someone for, rightfully, calling it off topic.

As for your situation, that sounds like a friable offense for a coach, and not one to be defended in any way. I know one of those teams had to loose the series but to loose that way the level of frustration sounds high. Good luck to those players in life and I hope they get a break somewhere in the future.

Jasper

[Steven Tyler]

Originally Posted by stratref

Fair enough, I do enjoy reading most of the posts that come to this board, even when off topic. I just didn't see the reason to jump on someone for, rightfully, calling it off topic.

As for your situation, that sounds like a friable offense for a coach, and not one to be defended in any way. I know one of those teams had to loose the series but to loose that way the level of frustration sounds high. Good luck to those players in life and I hope they get a break somewhere in the future.

Jasper

Cut the guy some slack. You know how illiterate they are down there. He's already made many typing mistakes.

siting. citing?
faught. fought?
contraversy. controversy?

OTH, what's a friable offense? Loose the series?

Maybe the coach isn't so dumb after all.

[jkumpire]

With respect, IMO your post is a little OOB there Steven.

Give him some grace about this, I feel badly for the kids in this situation too. In Ohio a couple of years ago, as I remember it, for a trip to the state tournament a team blew out another team. The team that won the game played everyone they could, and hs had 26 guys on his roster. Well, before the the Regional tournament he had a 25 man roster he had to fill out to tournament director, and the 26th player on the bench played but was not on the roster he filled out.

So the team that won the game forefited the game. How can you not feel awful for kids who lose becasue an adult administrator or coach made in essence, a harmless error, or a mistake he should have known better about?

[David B]

Originally Posted by jkumpire

With respect, IMO your post is a little OOB there Steven.

Give him some grace about this, I feel badly for the kids in this situation too. In Ohio a couple of years ago, as I remember it, for a trip to the state tournament a team blew out another team. The team that won the game played everyone they could, and hs had 26 guys on his roster. Well, before the the Regional tournament he had a 25 man roster he had to fill out to tournament director, and the 26th player on the bench played but was not on the roster he filled out.

So the team that won the game forefited the game. How can you not feel awful for kids who lose becasue an adult administrator or coach made in essence, a harmless error, or a mistake he should have known better about?

Sure this is an umpiring board, but I know when it gets playoff time I know most of these players and coaches from my years of calling. I've had them in summer ball, back when they played Jr. High and JV, and most of the coaches remain the same, maybe changing schools but still in the area.

So when something like this happens, I feel for the players, my son is playing Jr. high ball now and i think of that happening to him.

And now that he is playing "school ball" i also am more inclined to understand that "coaches are idiots".

They don't know the rules, they don't care about the rules, they just want to complain about the rules when they don't fit their situation.

Someone actually paid this guy to coach these boys - maybe they will learn from the adversity.

Thanks
David

[JRutledge]

Originally Posted by ManInBlue

I'd appreciate some respect for the boys. You may not give a damn because it didn't happen in New England. If one team was in your back yard and the other wasn't far down the road, you might change your tune.

I was posting a contraversy that happened this week in HS baseball - if you don't care - don't reply. It's a rather big deal here. I left out names so as not to make it personally about {insert coach's name} (anyone in MS can figure it out) and call him an idiot world wide (even if it's true).

What does that reaction have to do with respect of the boys involved? For one the issue you posted happens a lot. This is an officiating/umpire board and we do not deal with administrative issues. This really an administrative issue. Probably why you got that reaction and it does sound a little "fan-boyish" as this topic would be more likely to be discussed on a fan site. Stop being so sensitive and just take the comment for what it was. When you post on these issues on the internet, then do not get mad when the response is not to your liking. He did not have to keep his comments to himself no more than you should not have posted this story.

Peace

[ozzy6900]

Originally Posted by ManInBlue

I'd appreciate some respect for the boys. You may not give a damn because it didn't happen in New England. If one team was in your back yard and the other wasn't far down the road, you might change your tune.

I was posting a contraversy that happened this week in HS baseball - if you don't care - don't reply. It's a rather big deal here. I left out names so as not to make it personally about {insert coach's name} (anyone in MS can figure it out) and call him an idiot world wide (even if it's true).

• First of all, I will respond to any post I like.
• Second of all, you are correct, I do not care about the kids. I am an umpire - I don't care about the players other than to officiate. I do not get emotionally involved with the games.
• Third of all, if you want sympathy, look in the dictionary. You will find the word located between $hit and syphilis.
• Finally, this is an umpire site, not a "touchy-feely I want to be your good buddy palsy-walsy" site. So stick that in your pipe and smoke it!

[DG]

Originally Posted by ozzy6900

• First of all, I will respond to any post I like.
• Second of all, you are correct, I do not care about the kids. I am an umpire - I don't care about the players other than to officiate. I do not get emotionally involved with the games.
• Third of all, if you want sympathy, look in the dictionary. You will find the word located between $hit and syphilis.
• Finally, this is an umpire site, not a "touchy-feely I want to be your good buddy palsy-walsy" site. So stick that in your pipe and smoke it!

Wow! I expect you have never called time, dusted off the plate and went out to talk to the pitcher, while catcher recovers from a bad pitch in the dirt, since you don't care about the players. I expect you have never had a word to say to a catcher, or any other player for that matter, for any reason, since you don't care.

[ozzy6900]

Originally Posted by DG

Wow! I expect you have never called time, dusted off the plate and went out to talk to the pitcher, while catcher recovers from a bad pitch in the dirt, since you don't care about the players. I expect you have never had a word to say to a catcher, or any other player for that matter, for any reason, since you don't care.

Don't be an a$$, DG. You know perfectly well what I am talking about here.