malicious contact on fake tag

[MrUmpire]

Originally Posted by yawetag

Your wording allows an umpire to keep R1 at 1B when F3 obstructs him on a pick-off.

Really? "a minimum of one base beyond...." means that?

[Rich Ives]

Originally Posted by MrUmpire

Really? "a minimum of one base beyond...." means that?

You said:

or where the umpire believes he would have reached absent the obstruction.

and the use of "or" means you pick one of the options and ignore the other - thus you could throw out the "minimum one base" part and pick the "base he would have reached" part

so on a pickoff attempt at first, given those words, one could think you award first.

[yawetag]

Originally Posted by Rich Ives

You said:

or where the umpire believes he would have reached absent the obstruction.

and the use of "or" means you pick one of the options and ignore the other - thus you could throw out the "minimum one base" part and pick the "base he would have reached" part

so on a pickoff attempt at first, given those words, one could think you award first.

This.

[MrUmpire]

Originally Posted by Rich Ives

You said:

or where the umpire believes he would have reached absent the obstruction.

and the use of "or" means you pick one of the options and ignore the other - thus you could throw out the "minimum one base" part and pick the "base he would have reached" part

so on a pickoff attempt at first, given those words, one could think you award first.

Wow.

Sorry coach. I'll be much more careful of my sentence construction in the future. I shan't confuse you again.

[Rich Ives]

Originally Posted by MrUmpire

Wow.

Sorry coach. I'll be much more careful of my sentence construction in the future. I shan't confuse you again.

I'm not the one who was confused. Verily thou shouldst try to keep it straight.

[yawetag]

Originally Posted by Rich Ives

I'm not the one who was confused. Verily thou shouldst try to keep it straight.

For the record, I wasn't confused either. My point was that the "or" changes the way the rule can be applied.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Proper mechanic for obstruction by F3 on R1 on a pickoff:

"Time. That's Obstruction. You (point at R1)...2nd base (point at 2nd base)."

[rbmartin]

After reading your original post, where's the obstruction? MC, maybe but obstruction, no.