Ever Umpired a Beat-Down Like This? 45-0!

[scarolinablue]

Originally Posted by grunewar

There were: 22 runs, 23 hits, 21 walks and 11 steals in the first inning alone.

Methinks there's a math problem here...23 hits + 21 walks = 44 batters on base. Let's assume the bases were left loaded...44 batters - 3 outs - 3 LOB = 38 runs, not the 22 runs suggested in the article. It doesn't add up...I knew being an engineer would pay off one day!

That said, this is one of those games where after the first inning, you hope a) nobody gets hurt and b) no fights erupt before c) the game mercifully ends. I had one a few years back that was 17-0 at the end of the first, 21-0 at the end of two when the leading coach emptied his bench and told his kids to swing at the first pitch. Still took another 1:15 to finish it out at 26-1, as I recall.

[jdmara]

Originally Posted by scarolinablue

Methinks there's a math problem here...23 hits + 21 walks = 44 batters on base. Let's assume the bases were left loaded...44 batters - 3 outs - 3 LOB = 38 runs, not the 22 runs suggested in the article. It doesn't add up...I knew being an engineer would pay off one day!

That said, this is one of those games where after the first inning, you hope a) nobody gets hurt and b) no fights erupt before c) the game mercifully ends. I had one a few years back that was 17-0 at the end of the first, 21-0 at the end of two when the leading coach emptied his bench and told his kids to swing at the first pitch. Still took another 1:15 to finish it out at 26-1, as I recall.

Wait?! You can't trust the newspaper's account of the events?

-Josh

[Kevin Finnerty]

Originally Posted by scarolinablue

Methinks there's a math problem here...23 hits + 21 walks = 44 batters on base. Let's assume the bases were left loaded...44 batters - 3 outs - 3 LOB = 38 runs, not the 22 runs suggested in the article. It doesn't add up...I knew being an engineer would pay off one day!

Buddy, it's from FOX News!

You expect accurate stories of actual occurrences from anything that says FOX?

[scarolinablue]

Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty

Buddy, it's from FOX News!

You expect accurate stories of actual occurrences from anything that says FOX?

In an effort to keep this topic on-topic, I'll not start a rebuttal on accuracy in the media, be it Fox, CNN, or anybody else.

Or did I just do that?

[Kevin Finnerty]

Just so you know, the playing field is not even. There are things that don't compare well.

[scarolinablue]

Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty

Just so you know, the playing field is not even. There are things that don't compare well.

Actually, the OP article is from FoxSports, not Fox News. And, Fox Sports employs McCarver, don't they? So yes, I'd expect them to be inaccurate!

[Jurassic Referee]

Originally Posted by scarolinablue

Methinks there's a math problem here...23 hits + 21 walks = 44 batters on base. Let's assume the bases were left loaded...44 batters - 3 outs - 3 LOB = 38 runs, not the 22 runs suggested in the article. It doesn't add up...I knew being an engineer would pay off one day!

What also doesn't add up is it being a forfeit like the article stated it was. Called, yes. Forfeited, no.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Jurassic Referee

What also doesn't add up is it being a forfeit like the article stated it was. Called, yes. Forfeited, no.

I was curious about this, so I did some reading this morning.

4-2-4 states that state associations can determine how games are to end. In the absence of such procedures, mutual agreement of the coaches and the UIC can be used to shorten games.

There is specific language in the Wisconsin Adaptations to the NFHS rules on how a game is to end. Not much, here it is:

Ten Run Rule: The game shall end when the visiting team is behind 10 or more runs after 4 1/2 innings, or after the fifth inning if either team is 10 runs behind and both teams have had an equal number of times at bat. The ten run provision shall be used in the WIAA tournament series.
If a game is called prior to the completion of any full inning, NFHS Rule 4-2-3 will be applied.

By rule, if the losing team forfeits before it's a regulation game, it goes into the books as a 7-0 forfeit. None of the stats will count, I assume. Not that I care.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

I was curious about this, so I did some reading this morning.

4-2-4 states that state associations can determine how games are to end. In the absence of such procedures, mutual agreement of the coaches and the UIC can be used to shorten games.

There is specific language in the Wisconsin Adaptations to the NFHS rules on how a game is to end. Not much, here it is:

Ten Run Rule: The game shall end when the visiting team is behind 10 or more runs after 4 1/2 innings, or after the fifth inning if either team is 10 runs behind and both teams have had an equal number of times at bat. The ten run provision shall be used in the WIAA tournament series.
If a game is called prior to the completion of any full inning, NFHS Rule 4-2-3 will be applied.

By rule, if the losing team forfeits before it's a regulation game, it goes into the books as a 7-0 forfeit. None of the stats will count, I assume. Not that I care.

Rich, if WIAA specifies that the mercy rule is the ONLY way to end a game in fewer than 7 innings -- that is, if the coaches cannot get together and agree to stop -- then I think you're right: this would be a forfeit.

However, according to 4-5, a forfeit is scored 7-0 only when the forfeiting team is winning. So I think score and all of the stats should remain intact for this one.

[Rich]

Originally Posted by mbyron

Rich, if WIAA specifies that the mercy rule is the ONLY way to end a game in fewer than 7 innings -- that is, if the coaches cannot get together and agree to stop -- then I think you're right: this would be a forfeit.

However, according to 4-5, a forfeit is scored 7-0 only when the forfeiting team is winning. So I think score and all of the stats should remain intact for this one.

Look at 4-4-2:

ART. 2 . . . Score of a forfeited game is 7 to 0 except if the game is forfeited after the number of innings required for a regulation game and the offending team is behind. Then the score remains as recorded. If the offending team is leading, the score shall be 7 to 0.