Catcher picks up ball with mask

[rpumpire]

Originally Posted by Skarecrow

Seattle at Oakland....ball still live after touch by 3rd base, and catcher grabs ball rolling towards foul line with his mask...gave each runner one base....highlights showed this happend on July 11, 2009, with the A's and Rays...similar play....runners got one base then, too.....

They didn't award one base, they awarded two bases (BR to second, R1 to third). However, by rule it should have been three bases.

[Skarecrow]

Originally Posted by rpumpire

They didn't award one base, they awarded two bases (BR to second, R1 to third). However, by rule it should have been three bases.

I stand corrected...you are right...that was the BR they waved to second...thanks....

[tjones1]

I think there was a play last year where the catcher stopped the ball from rolling with his mask. However, I'm fairly sure it wasn't a batted ball. I think it was a pitch in the dirt.

[Skarecrow]

Originally Posted by tjones1

I think there was a play last year where the catcher stopped the ball from rolling with his mask. However, I'm fairly sure it wasn't a batted ball. I think it was a pitch in the dirt.

Yeah, that's the A's-Rays game I mentioned on July 11, 2009...they showed that replay in the A's-Seattle game....low pitch and squibble slowly away from the catcher, and the catcher kind of knocked the ball toward his glove using his mask....they gave R1 one base then, too....if I recall the replay correctly....

[Rich Ives]

Originally Posted by Skarecrow

Yeah, that's the A's-Rays game I mentioned on July 11, 2009...they showed that replay in the A's-Seattle game....low pitch and squibble slowly away from the catcher, and the catcher kind of knocked the ball toward his glove using his mask....they gave R1 one base then, too....if I recall the replay correctly....

On a pitch the award is one base.

[UmpJM]

Originally Posted by Rich Ives

On a pitch the award is one base.

Except, of course, in FED - where it's two.

JM

[Rich Ives]

Originally Posted by UmpJM (nee CoachJM)

Except, of course, in FED - where it's two.

JM

Right after we get chastised (elsewhere) for bringing up the "wrong" rules in a discussion?

[Skarecrow]

Originally Posted by Rich Ives

On a pitch the award is one base.

But not with the catcher's inadvertent use of his mask to control the ball....that's the point....it changes the whole sitch...no longer has anything to do with the fact it was a pitch.....

[Crabnut]

In the Mariners play, the umpires got together and determined that the ball was no longer a batted ball after the third baseman's touch, as he had changed impetus driving the ball. Hence, the ruling that it was a thrown ball (two base award on detached equipment) rather than a batted ball (three base award on detached equipment). Interesting ruling and they get paid big bucks for this. Notice that the MLB did not make any kind of a clarification on this, so it implies they go the ruling right, despite forum members saying they got it wrong. I tend to agree with the umpires on the field, but I am a Mariners fan suffering a minor disaster of an open to the season, and may not be objective.

[Rich Ives]

Originally Posted by skarecrow

but not with the catcher's inadvertent use of his mask to control the ball....that's the point....it changes the whole sitch...no longer has anything to do with the fact it was a pitch.....

wtf?

[BaBa Booey]

Originally Posted by Skarecrow

But not with the catcher's inadvertent use of his mask to control the ball....that's the point....it changes the whole sitch...no longer has anything to do with the fact it was a pitch.....

Can you clarify what you mean by this? I recall nothing about the catchers intent when using his mask. I'm pretty sure it states quite clearly that it 1 base on a pitched ball, 2 on a thrown ball, and 3 on a batted ball (from time of touch).