No hard feelings...

[bsaucer]

This may not be an actual question... but I once saw an unusual event happen at an NCAA game.

The batter hits a home run. The next pitch hits the next batter. The umpire immediately gave the pitcher a warning. After a few more lousy pitches, he hits the next batter. The umpire immediately gives him the thumb.

The coach walks to the pitcher's mound and replaces his pitcher. He and the ejected pitcher return to the dugout. A few minutes later, the umpire walked over to the dugout and pointed at the pitcher, and motioned for him to leave the field. He gathered up his bag and walked off the field. (This is required for an ejected player.)

During all of this, there were no arguments, no discussion, etc. But in my opinion, I don't think the pitcher deliberately hit either of the batters. He was just pitching badly. Any comments?

[bsaucer]

Having said all that, let me pose a question: If a pitcher is pitching so badly, can the umpire, for the safety of the batters, order the pitcher to be replaced, without officially ejecting him?

[johnnyg08]

Originally Posted by bsaucer

Having said all that, let me pose a question: If a pitcher is pitching so badly, can the umpire, for the safety of the batters, order the pitcher to be replaced, without officially ejecting him?

no.

[dash_riprock]

Originally Posted by bsaucer

Having said all that, let me pose a question: If a pitcher is pitching so badly, can the umpire, for the safety of the batters, order the pitcher to be replaced, without officially ejecting him?

No. He can only do that with the catcher.

[UmpTTS43]

Originally Posted by dash_riprock

No. He can only do that with the catcher.

Funny. I hope all know that you are joking.

[UmpJM]

Originally Posted by UmpTTS43

Funny. I hope all know that you are joking.

UmpTT,

Almost made me spit my beer when I read it.

bsaucer,

In an NCAA game, if the first pitch after a home run hits the batter, the pitcher and his manager are getting a warning.

If you didn't, you'd have a riot on your hands.

JM

[dash_riprock]

Originally Posted by UmpTTS43

Funny. I hope all know that you are joking.

Actually, I hope not. I would love that rumor to start circulating in dugouts across America. "You better knock down everything. The ump can get rid of you if you don't. It's a rule."

[ozzy6900]

How about this.... F1 has been cruising and after a HR, he blows up? Not a very good pitcher, I guess. It's not for us to decide if F1 is having a problem or not. As I said, if he was cruising along and a HR results in a HBP, that is a problem that will go from simmer to boil quicker than you know.

I agree with a warning at any level and once the warning is given, the next hit batsman is a ticket out of the park.

[SAump]

Originally Posted by bsaucer

This may not be an actual question... but I once saw an unusual event happen at an NCAA game.

The batter hits a home run. The next pitch hits the next batter. The umpire immediately gave the pitcher a warning. After a few more lousy pitches, he hits the next batter. The umpire immediately gives him the thumb.

The coach walks to the pitcher's mound and replaces his pitcher. He and the ejected pitcher return to the dugout. A few minutes later, the umpire walked over to the dugout and pointed at the pitcher, and motioned for him to leave the field. He gathered up his bag and walked off the field. (This is required for an ejected player.)

During all of this, there were no arguments, no discussion, etc. But in my opinion, I don't think the pitcher deliberately hit either of the batters. He was just pitching badly. Any comments?

Simple discussion resulting in review of good umpiring.

If I may continue, teams exchange places and F1 plunks the 1st batter w/ a hard fastball up in the zone. --Do you let it go, warn or eject?

I would warn, but would the warning in the previous half-inning still apply to both teams and require an ejection?

[KJUmp]

Originally Posted by bsaucer

This may not be an actual question... but I once saw an unusual event happen at an NCAA game.

The batter hits a home run. The next pitch hits the next batter. The umpire immediately gave the pitcher a warning. After a few more lousy pitches, he hits the next batter. The umpire immediately gives him the thumb.

The coach walks to the pitcher's mound and replaces his pitcher. He and the ejected pitcher return to the dugout. A few minutes later, the umpire walked over to the dugout and pointed at the pitcher, and motioned for him to leave the field. He gathered up his bag and walked off the field. (This is required for an ejected player.)

During all of this, there were no arguments, no discussion, etc. But in my opinion, I don't think the pitcher deliberately hit either of the batters. He was just pitching badly. Any comments?

I do not umpire NCAA baseball, my question to any NCAA umps is:

In NCAA baseball, after a warning by the umpire to a pitcher for throwing at a batter, and then he is ejected for subsequently throwing at or hitting another batter, doesn't the head coach get ejected also?
Thanks for clarifying.

[dash_riprock]

Originally Posted by KJUmp

I do not umpire NCAA baseball, my question to any NCAA umps is:

In NCAA baseball, after a warning by the umpire to a pitcher for throwing at a batter, and then he is ejected for subsequently throwing at or hitting another batter, doesn't the head coach get ejected also?
Thanks for clarifying.

That's the rule. And it applies to any pitcher on either team.

[bsaucer]

I don't think the head coach, or any other coach, was tossed in this situation. Just the pitcher.