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Old Wed Mar 03, 2010, 10:44pm
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Q: How many legs does a dog have if you call a tail a leg?

A: Four. Calling a tail a leg does not make it so.

If that thing were 33" and 30 oz., would you let a batter use it to hit?

My opinion is that it is not legal to have in the on-deck circle. Calling it a weighted bat does not make it one.
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Old Wed Mar 03, 2010, 11:20pm
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Q: How many legs does a dog have if you call a tail a leg?

A: Four. Calling a tail a leg does not make it so.

If that thing were 33" and 30 oz., would you let a batter use it to hit?

My opinion is that it is not legal to have in the on-deck circle. Calling it a weighted bat does not make it one.
how or why do you not think this is a weighted bat/ warm up bat?
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Old Wed Mar 03, 2010, 11:33pm
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Appears to be a weighted bat made for this purpose, even has bat handle with knob on the end. I see no other legal purpose for this item and for illegal purposes no one would buy one when a pipe or brick would do.
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Old Wed Mar 03, 2010, 11:57pm
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In the spirit of the rule, it is not a sledge hammer or some other such thing that creates more of a hazard. This is something designed as a weighted warm-up device that is decidedly bat-like.

I think I'll bring it up to the rules chairman, and I think I'll allow it until I hear otherwise, just like I did today.
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Old Thu Mar 04, 2010, 08:56am
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They've been usesd around here and no one has said anything.
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Old Thu Mar 04, 2010, 09:10am
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They've been usesd around here and no one has said anything.
Same here, we've seen these and not a problem.

Now if a coach complained about it, might have to seek a clarification, but I would allow it until I got the clarification.

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Old Thu Mar 04, 2010, 10:22am
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Quote: "If that thing were 33" and 30 oz., would you let a batter use it to hit?"

The OP said nothing about allowing batter to bring that "weighted bat" to the batter's box to hit? The issues was can it be used in the circle? No one is calling this a "bat" but a "weighted bat". No comparision to your dog tail...
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Old Thu Mar 04, 2010, 10:14pm
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In the spirit of the rule, it is not a sledge hammer or some other such thing that creates more of a hazard. This is something designed as a weighted warm-up device that is decidedly bat-like.

I think I'll bring it up to the rules chairman, and I think I'll allow it until I hear otherwise, just like I did today.
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Old Thu Mar 04, 2010, 11:00pm
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I would allow, and not seek clarification. If the handle looks like a bat, and the other end is weighted, it's a weighted warmup bat.
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Old Thu Mar 04, 2010, 10:48am
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q: How many legs does a dog have if you call a tail a leg?
5.
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Old Thu Mar 04, 2010, 01:45pm
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It's legal - meets the FED requirements for a warmup bat.

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Old Thu Mar 04, 2010, 03:36pm
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I've seen that and similar devices used.
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Old Thu Mar 04, 2010, 06:04pm
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Until NFHS defines exactly what a "weighted bat" is, then unless it can be deemed unsafe. Let them Play

The rules are just not clear. "Only bats and devices designed to remain part of
the bat, such as weighted bats"

Is a weighted bat "a device that remains part of the bat"? Then its not a bat, its a part of the bat Blah, Blah Blah Blah Blah ........?????????????????:conf used:
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Old Thu Mar 04, 2010, 06:48pm
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What about weighted hands?
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Old Thu Mar 04, 2010, 07:40pm
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What about weighted hands?
They are part of a weighted bat!!
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