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Chris_Hickman Wed Mar 03, 2010 05:54pm

Legal or not.....
 
By FED rule, is this legal for on-deck batters to have?


Schutt HWB Dirx 96OZ. Weighted Bat | BaseballExpress.com

Thx

mbyron Wed Mar 03, 2010 06:00pm

Do you think it complies with 1-3-3? I think it's a "weighted bat."

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rule 1-3-3
Only bats may be used in loosening up (including weighted bats for
this purpose) at any location. Only bats and devices designed to remain part of
the bat, such as weighted bats, batting donuts, and wind-resistant devices are
legal at any location....


Chris_Hickman Wed Mar 03, 2010 06:05pm

I think it's legal...however I have not worked HS in a while and I know the FED rules can be a little "screwry"..... I know alot of guys here work HS. I watched a scrimmage yesterday and a ump told the head coach to put it away....

Thx for the response....

ManInBlue Wed Mar 03, 2010 07:32pm

I'd say it's a weighted bat. That's my judgment. The umpire working the game had another judment and thought of it as something other than a "weighted bat."

pastordoug Wed Mar 03, 2010 10:31pm

Not only does it look like a weighted bat but it says: "Schutt HWB Dirx 96OZ. Weighted Bat".

By FED rules this is legal.... Odd looking but legal...

Publius Wed Mar 03, 2010 10:44pm

Q: How many legs does a dog have if you call a tail a leg?

A: Four. Calling a tail a leg does not make it so.

If that thing were 33" and 30 oz., would you let a batter use it to hit?

My opinion is that it is not legal to have in the on-deck circle. Calling it a weighted bat does not make it one.

Umpmazza Wed Mar 03, 2010 11:20pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Publius (Post 666153)
Q: How many legs does a dog have if you call a tail a leg?

A: Four. Calling a tail a leg does not make it so.

If that thing were 33" and 30 oz., would you let a batter use it to hit?

My opinion is that it is not legal to have in the on-deck circle. Calling it a weighted bat does not make it one.

how or why do you not think this is a weighted bat/ warm up bat?

DG Wed Mar 03, 2010 11:33pm

Appears to be a weighted bat made for this purpose, even has bat handle with knob on the end. I see no other legal purpose for this item and for illegal purposes no one would buy one when a pipe or brick would do.

Kevin Finnerty Wed Mar 03, 2010 11:57pm

In the spirit of the rule, it is not a sledge hammer or some other such thing that creates more of a hazard. This is something designed as a weighted warm-up device that is decidedly bat-like.

I think I'll bring it up to the rules chairman, and I think I'll allow it until I hear otherwise, just like I did today.

bob jenkins Thu Mar 04, 2010 08:56am

They've been usesd around here and no one has said anything.

David B Thu Mar 04, 2010 09:10am

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 666189)
They've been usesd around here and no one has said anything.

Same here, we've seen these and not a problem.

Now if a coach complained about it, might have to seek a clarification, but I would allow it until I got the clarification.

Thanks
David

pastordoug Thu Mar 04, 2010 10:22am

Quote: "If that thing were 33" and 30 oz., would you let a batter use it to hit?"

The OP said nothing about allowing batter to bring that "weighted bat" to the batter's box to hit? The issues was can it be used in the circle? No one is calling this a "bat" but a "weighted bat". No comparision to your dog tail...

Forest Ump Thu Mar 04, 2010 10:47am

Pickin' buggers.

dash_riprock Thu Mar 04, 2010 10:48am

Quote:

Originally Posted by publius (Post 666153)
q: How many legs does a dog have if you call a tail a leg?

5.

JJ Thu Mar 04, 2010 01:45pm

It's legal - meets the FED requirements for a warmup bat.

JJ


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