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Old Wed Dec 09, 2009, 09:33am
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Partner Not Willing To Take Care of Business

So you are settled in at the plate and your partner has had a few bangers. He seems to be doing fine although Coach PITA has had a few comments on the base calls.

R1 & R3, no outs and both are off with the pitch. There is a hot grounder to F6 who chooses to heave it to F3 and get the BR. You had no choice but "stay home" (you signaled to your partner that you were "staying home") so your partner has all the base calls. He bang out the BR, and Coach PITA starts another disapproval concert from the 3rd base box.

Your partner just goes to his position and says nothing to Coach PITA when the Coach hollers, "Damn, Billy! That's two you've blown so far!". Your partner says absolutley nothing and you are fuming over this Coach.

Now I know that this has happened to all of us and I would like to know what my brothers would do.

Do you dump Coach PITA?
Do you tell Coach PITA "That's enough!"?
Do you do nothing?
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Old Wed Dec 09, 2009, 09:45am
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You have to give him time to take care of this on his own. I might not like the actions of the coach but he's getting a LONG leash from me before I'll step in.
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Old Wed Dec 09, 2009, 09:47am
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Depends on partner's experience. With a rookie I'll step in.
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Old Wed Dec 09, 2009, 10:39am
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Depends on partner's experience. With a rookie I'll step in.
I agree with this....need to have the back of a new guy. With a vet....tough one...we've all worked with vets that shock you with their "lack of intestinal fortitude" to take care of business. They just make it harder for other umpires.
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Old Wed Dec 09, 2009, 10:59am
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R1 & R3, no outs and both are off with the pitch. There is a hot grounder to F6 who chooses to heave it to F3 and get the BR. You had no choice but "stay home" (you signaled to your partner that you were "staying home") so your partner has all the base calls. He bang out the BR, and Coach PITA starts another disapproval concert from the 3rd base box.
I was wondering... this is a routine grounder. Why do you need to signal to your partner that "you" are stayin' home? The only signalling at pre-pitch is a 1st to 3rd rotation. This whole post sounds kinda weird to me.....

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Old Wed Dec 09, 2009, 11:06am
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What would a good reply be to this coach if you were the BU? I'm always looking for "rebuttal lines."
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Old Wed Dec 09, 2009, 11:50am
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I was wondering... this is a routine grounder. Why do you need to signal to your partner that "you" are stayin' home? The only signalling at pre-pitch is a 1st to 3rd rotation. This whole post sounds kinda weird to me.....
Nothing wierd, Chris, just trying to get a discussion going.

I added this signaling thing to keep people on the post, not a tangent. In the past, most people would jump on the fact that you didn't let your partner know that you were staying "home". I don't signal this either but as I said, just for discussion purposes.
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Old Wed Dec 09, 2009, 12:19pm
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What would a good reply be to this coach if you were the BU? I'm always looking for "rebuttal lines."
Rebuttal? To "you've blown 2 so far?" Depending on the circumstances, either:

1. That's enough.
2. You're restricted to the dugout.
3. You're ejected.

The coach isn't making an argument, so doesn't deserve a rebuttal.
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Old Wed Dec 09, 2009, 12:34pm
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1. Only two? I thought it was more.

2. Who's counting?
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Old Wed Dec 09, 2009, 12:50pm
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What would a good reply be to this coach if you were the BU? I'm always looking for "rebuttal lines."
I used the same one both times it was said to me: "You're gone."
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Old Wed Dec 09, 2009, 12:51pm
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You could give your partner that "look" in hopes it wakes him up. Between innings, especially with a newer umpire, call him down and tell him it's time to start taking care of business, or I will. We've all had to learn the hard way, sometimes a nudge will keep a younger umpire from learning the hard way also. I clearly remember when the light came on for me, the games go much smoother when you stop it quickly.
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Old Wed Dec 09, 2009, 01:25pm
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What would a good reply be to this coach if you were the BU? I'm always looking for "rebuttal lines."
How about "When the ball arrived the runners foot was 3/8" from the bag." When he asks if you are crazy tell him it may have been 1/2".
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Old Wed Dec 09, 2009, 01:31pm
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If a vet, I'd get to the coach between innings and tell him I'll take care of biz if my partner doesn't.
One trick I've learned is to pull out the line-up card when approaching the coach. That way only he and I know the true nature of our chat.
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Old Wed Dec 09, 2009, 01:33pm
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What would a good reply be to this coach if you were the BU? I'm always looking for "rebuttal lines."
Rebuttal lines rarely diffuse the situation. Often the opposite.
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Old Wed Dec 09, 2009, 01:43pm
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Rebuttal? To "you've blown 2 so far?" Depending on the circumstances, either:

1. That's enough.
2. You're restricted to the dugout.
3. You're ejected.

The coach isn't making an argument, so doesn't deserve a rebuttal.
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