Coach Dad

[batboy22]

I posted this on another forum but would like some input on this from some NCAA guys....

This is why I hate travel and club ball. This is a fall ball development league. I have the stick, top of 2, and visiting team down 6, 7 or 8 (or whatever) to 0. Coach Dad is warned on balls and strikes.
In the 7th or 8th of a 9 inning game visitors down 20 or so to 0...2 outs, R1, 2-2 count, batter nicks the ball, it hits the catchers glove and goes to the backstop, I rule foul. Someone from the hole yells "It was catchers interference! Figure it out!" Me being the politically correct umpire that I am simply LOOK in the hole. Coach Dad flips, not arguing catchers interference but that I looked in his dugout. He Starts ranting and raving as he's headed towards me. I say "We aren't doing this." He continues to the plate yelling. I tell him two more times while giving him the stop sign not to come down here. Because all he wants to do is yell and scream at me about nothing. He says something inappropriate and gets run.
He pulls his hitter and runner into the hole and says, "We're through, we aren't playing with you out here." Game over.
While I know this is high school stuff. For you NCAA guys any advise on how this should be handled? If anything different. As I find there to be a huge difference between the pro game and the college game as far as how situations are supposed to be handled. And I'm really trying to learn anything I can about umpiring in general to keep improving.
Thanks guys

[batboy22]

Don't get me wrong, I'd like advise from everyone. I simply mean how should this be handled in a college game. Thanks again.

[RPatrino]

Is this a college level fall ball game? Do you want opinions on how to handle this is regular season or in the fall ball setting?

[batboy22]

Originally Posted by RPatrino

Is this a college level fall ball game? Do you want opinions on how to handle this is regular season or in the fall ball setting?

Regular season...College

Thanks

[MrUmpire]

Originally Posted by batboy22

Regular season...College

Thanks

Hard to say, this doesn't happen in college games. At least none I've worked or watched.

In fall ball "developmental", for my taste that was one warning to many. Then, after his tantrum and pulling his kids, pack up your gear and go home.

[Umpmazza]

Honestly in a regular season game.. I would have done the same thing... you gave him warning about balls and strikes early in the game... and then when this all happened, it seemed like you tried to talk him down and you were not the aggressor, which is great, some guys will always want to be aggressive. I use the stop sign as well. its a great non aggressive tactic. I say you did just fine. I just umpired a fall game for a D-II school 2 day 75* in Missouri in Nov.. awesome weather... not a peep out of anyone...fun game..I sure this was my last game till Feb..

[batboy22]

Originally Posted by MrUmpire

Hard to say, this doesn't happen in college games. At least none I've worked or watched.

In fall ball "developmental", for my taste that was one warning to many. Then, after his tantrum and pulling his kids, pack up your gear and go home.

Originally Posted by Umpmazza

Honestly in a regular season game.. I would have done the same thing... you gave him warning about balls and strikes early in the game... and then when this all happened, it seemed like you tried to talk him down and you were not the aggressor, which is great, some guys will always want to be aggressive. I use the stop sign as well. its a great non aggressive tactic. I say you did just fine. I just umpired a fall game for a D-II school 2 day 75* in Missouri in Nov.. awesome weather... not a peep out of anyone...fun game..I sure this was my last game till Feb..

I tend to agree Mr. Umpire. Probably gave him one to many warnings....man Umpmazza that sounds like my kinda weather.

[jkumpire]

Batboy,

Best advice I can give you for that level of play is make sure you get paid before the game starts.

[jicecone]

What an embarrasment to a college level player. About all you can do is think "Well coach don't let the gate hit you in the **s on the way out".

In verbal english, "Have a nice day!"

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by batboy22

Don't get me wrong, I'd like advise from everyone. I simply mean how should this be handled in a college game. Thanks again.

The chances of this happening in a college game are extremely small. There's an autoimatic suspension in the rules for the coach if he pulls his team.

[greymule]

When I was in school, a coach pulled his team after one of his players was tossed for telling the BU, "You don't know anything." His team was packing up to leave, and we were razzing them pretty good, wishing them a pleasant trip home, etc. But then somebody must have intervened, or maybe the coach simply changed his mind, because they then unpacked and the game continued.

I remember that the coach was ragging on both umps right from the beginning, moaning about obvious calls, claiming on anything close that he was being robbed. I also remember that he looked pretty young, so I suspected he was somehow a last-minute replacement for the real coach.

My junior year in college, the regular Boston College coach was sick and sent an assistant. The guy couldn't handle the game or his team, and the afternoon ended in a brawl.

PS. I don't do college baseball (I'm not in the clique), but I've done plenty of college softball, and I've never had even the slightest incident with player or coach or spectator.

[DG]

If he comes ranting out of the dugout toss him. After that he is not allowed to do any coaching, so if he pulls his team from the field forfeit the game and go home.

[RPatrino]

Yes, that would be my reaction. If he comes out of the dugout yelling and screaming, he's gone. I had a HS coach do the pull the team thing, he was trailing 23-0 at the time.

[Kevin Finnerty]

Originally Posted by RPatrino

Yes, that would be my reaction. If he comes out of the dugout yelling and screaming, he's gone. I had a HS coach do the pull the team thing, he was trailing 23-0 at the time.

It's a bright coaching move: draw more attention to how horsesh!t you and your team are.

[RPatrino]

Yes and the coach was an ex major league player!! I ran him and he said, "Do you know who I am", and I said, "ya, the guy walkin to the bus!!"...