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The problem with ignoring is if someone posts something you know to be wrong. Then, if you don't know about it, you can't correct it. As much as some would like to ignore others, I think it leads to other problems. And, is an indirect way of letting myths perpetuate.
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Steve, I agree you were justified in being ticked off!! The only time as the PU I will interject myself on a partner's safe/out judgement call is if they call a runner out and they can't see the ball is on the ground.
I don't think I would have even hanging around with this dufus in the parking lot, just jump in the jaloppie and boogie.
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What's the difference between that and an out call when the runner beat it by three steps? If your partner blows one, and needs help, he can come to you.
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Steve, if your partner, either by statement or by implication, conveyed what he did as an acceptable practice in either the minors or NCAA baseball, he is lying.
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Did your partner give F1 "some expression" , etc. indicating that you got the call wrong and is waiting for you to ask for help. If INDEED the PU gave some indication to F1 that you blew the call and he was ready for you to ask for help, then IMO that's a far bigger problem then simply over-turning your call which is wrong all by it's lonesome. FWIW I am getting sick and tired of this "get the call right at all cost" mentality because the FACT is we will NOT get every call right. It's part of life. Also, whose to say that your partner got the call right. Suppose you ruled safe because in your judgement, F5 pushed the runner off the base and the PU didn't see that part of the play etc. There could be a zillion reasons why you ruled the runner safe. The bottom line IT'S YOUR CALL PERIOD. NO umpire has the right to over-turn a judgement call without you FIRST requesting assistance otherwise the game will become CHAOS. I realize it's the "olden days" but IMO Carl's Fab V (back in the day) when a call can be changed should be the motto but unfortunately it is not. FWIW here's Carl's list Quote:
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$75, but who's counting?
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You know, just to see what would happen.
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My "partner" (for lack of a better word, a word which I can't say on this forum ) has been in this adult association for a long time, I just finished my 6th week. I wanted to do this, but I think I would have looked like the bad guy if I hadn't just bit the bullet on this one. I won't have to worry about it happening again with this guy, because I won't be working with him in the future.
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I had a funny thought. Would suit him right if on the very next call on BR at 1B you just stand there, look at him and say "what you got hoss?".
I would not want to work with him again and would let assignor know what happened. In my association the word on him would spread quickly. |
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On next pitch when PU says "strike" come out firing with "No No No - That was a bit low - Ball !!" |
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Matt, refer to Pete Booths post on Carls Fab 5. I was speaking of when I would step in an provide input without being asked for help.
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Yup, thought about doing that too.
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Yes, that's my famous..."BALLLLRIKKKE" call.
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