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To Grune's point......
"Missed calls and shaky umpiring have been an embarrassment fo Major League Baseball throughout this postseason" What would the NFL being doing if this type of thing occured in their playoffs? |
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Originally Posted by Kevin Finnerty:
Wow! I just read J.K.'s defense of McClelland's latest butchery. Admirable loyalty to a once-great umpire. I can't wait to hear the others. It is indeed sad that some will ignore the reality of it all and make excuses for such shoddy and unprofessional work for no reason other than misplaced loyalty to a fellow umpire. On that we can agree. |
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Since U3 said he thought runner was on base ( as opposed at a snap judgement on the runner touching and being tagged almost at the same time) why after Scioscia came out didn't he simply ask PU if he had an out?
Not the best grammer, but point is there.... Last edited by robbie; Wed Oct 21, 2009 at 09:22pm. |
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The PU would have told him to talk to U3 because it was U3's call.
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Grade the officials on every down of the game like always. Some NFL officials don't get a single foul/no-foul call wrong during the entire 17 game season. That is about 2329 consecutive downs without making a mistake (about 137 per game). What do you want the NFL to do because a guy got one wrong during the playoffs?
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Posado was the lead runner. When Posado returned to 3rd, that bag became HIS bag - not Cano's. The Angel's catcher, Napoli, elected to tag Cano first. Cano was clearly off the bag -but- if he had been on the bag, didn't the bag still belong to Posada - even though Posada had overrun the bag? Yes, I realize that there were never two runners on the base at the same time. But the issue is one of ownership. WHO does the bag belong to? Posado had returned to 3rd and overran it. Posado needed to return to that base to be safe. Let's say, for the sake of argument, that when Cano was tagged he was on the base and, for that reason, McClelland had called him safe. Posado is off the bag on the leftfield side of 3rd, after overrunning it. Where can Posado go to be safe? We know he can't run to 2nd. Can he go back to 3rd? Cano has already been declared SAFE at 3rd. Can he go home? No! Because he failed to touch 3rd. Can Cano be safe at 3rd when tagged ... and if Posado returns to 3rd ... can Cano be re-tagged and be declared out? David Emerling Memphis, TN |
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Yes, and yes. He would first be safe, while Posada was still off the base, then after Posada steps on the base, Cano could be re-tagged and be called out.
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I get confused sometimes by all the "McClelland is one of the best umpires in MLB." Ive watched him work a lot, and I will admit his ball/strike consistency is very good but I have also watched and noticed him blowing/missing a good number of calls. In MLB does "the best" simply boil down to ball and strike Questec ratings?
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I didn't realize that Sammy was in attendance, or that he had came out!
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There should be two openings in MLB next year, Cuzzi and Mcclelland. They don't have to be fired, just put back in AAA until they can handle umpiring in the bigs. If they don't like that, retire and let other guys in.
On second thought, just fire them. Professionals should not make those gross mistakes. I'm tired of the ol' "everybody makes mistakes" reasoning. If my doctor makes a mistake, he's not getting off the hook because some pre-med student made the same mistake. Let's try to have the best officiating the best. I am getting tired of seeing gross mistakes at this level. |
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.I was not being critical of the NFL or their system for rating, evaluating, and advancing officials for post season assignments. |
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McClellon had one shot at this play and missed it big time. And he did not have to move much to see the play and adjust to get an angle. We have all missed plays. The lesson in this is to never assume anything. You have to get in position to see something. And if guys knew at the MLB level that they will not have a job in a year for these kinds of calls or at the very least sit home during the playoffs, they might do a better job on the routine play like this. Peace
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JK, in this situation the U3 has NOTHING more to do than to get sufficient angle to line up the runner and the catch. If you can't get that simple responsibility done, maybe you should be doing something else.
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I suppose I sould cave been clearer. "Him" refers to U3, not to Scioscia. McClelland could have very easily gone to PU ( or crew in general) to ask if he missed something. Surely one of then would have said obvious tag while off the base. McClelland gives the hammer. Play over, Move on. Last edited by robbie; Wed Oct 21, 2009 at 09:21pm. |
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