Should I have intervened

[Rich Ives]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

6.08(b)(2) doesn't come right out and call it cheating, but only players or coaches would not consider it a form of cheating trying to get a base on balls by intentionally allowing the pitch to hit them.

Exactly. The participants (both teams) don't think it's cheating.

The rule doesn't make it cheating. It says you can't go to 1B if you don't try to get out of the way. Nothing requires you to get out of the way - just a penalty if you fail to do so. Might be cheating with the FED rule but not in OBR.

Umpire's call.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by Rich Ives

Exactly. The participants (both teams) don't think it's cheating.

The rule doesn't make it cheating. It says you can't go to 1B if you don't try to get out of the way. Nothing requires you to get out of the way - just a penalty if you fail to do so. Might be cheating with the FED rule but not in OBR.

Umpire's call.

It still is cheating, it's just not spelled out in so many words!

Okay, we'll do the PC thing and use a euphemism: "The batter was only trying to gain an unfair advantage over the defense."

I feel so liberated now!

[Rich Ives]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

It still is cheating, it's just not spelled out in so many words!

Okay, we'll do the PC thing and use a euphemism: "The batter was only trying to gain an unfair advantage over the defense."

I feel so liberated now!

Just like a hidden ball trick.

Or maybe a deke that keeps a runner from going first to third.

Glad to hear you never drive over the limit.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by Rich Ives

Just like a hidden ball trick.

Or maybe a deke that keeps a runner from going first to third.

Glad to hear you never drive over the limit.

When I drive fast, I am not gaining an unfair advantage over an opponent. I'm merely getting somewhere quicker.

The hidden ball trick is designed to fool the opponent. Letting a pitch hit you is designed to fool the umpire. That's where I come in. My name is Friday. I carry a badge. Dum-da-dum-dum...dum-da-dum-dum-dum!

[Rich Ives]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

When I drive fast, I am not gaining an unfair advantage over an opponent. I'm merely getting somewhere quicker.

The hidden ball trick is designed to fool the opponent. Letting a pitch hit you is designed to fool the umpire. That's where I come in. My name is Friday. I carry a badge. Dum-da-dum-dum...dum-da-dum-dum-dum!

Well Joe, you'll need to give yourself a speeding ticket then. Can't have a double standard on enforcement can we now?

[JJ]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

When I drive fast, I am not gaining an unfair advantage over an opponent. I'm merely getting somewhere quicker.

The hidden ball trick is designed to fool the opponent. Letting a pitch hit you is designed to fool the umpire. That's where I come in. My name is Friday. I carry a badge. Dum-da-dum-dum...dum-da-dum-dum-dum!

Now THAT'S funny...

JJ

[Ump153]

Originally Posted by Rich Ives

Exactly. The participants (both teams) don't think it's cheating.

The rule doesn't make it cheating. It says you can't go to 1B if you don't try to get out of the way. Nothing requires you to get out of the way - just a penalty if you fail to do so. Might be cheating with the FED rule but not in OBR.

Now that's setting a high standard. As long as the coaches and players don't think it's cheating, it's not cheating.

Seriously...the batter didn't just let the ball hit him, he moved into the pitch.