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Old Mon Aug 17, 2009, 10:38pm
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Thanks, kind of figured that was the case. Any lower level of game I have seen it would have been an immediate ejection, but the ump didnt even flinch.
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Old Tue Aug 18, 2009, 07:07am
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Thanks, kind of figured that was the case. Any lower level of game I have seen it would have been an immediate ejection, but the ump didnt even flinch.
Yes. That's a MAJOR difference between pro ball and any level of amateur ball, from NCAA on down.
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Old Tue Aug 18, 2009, 07:49am
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Yes. That's a MAJOR difference between pro ball and any level of amateur ball, from NCAA on down.
Right! If you are being paid to play, then this is how it works - deal with it.

However, in amateur baseball, this cannot and should not be allowed or tolerated!
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Old Tue Aug 18, 2009, 08:12am
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I worked a semi-pro league for a few years with the same rules. One game the catcher got BLASTED twice in the same game. About all I could do was pickup his mask , ask him how he was doing and hope the glaze in his eyes didn't prevent him from catching the ball and hitting me.

The league finnally realized that a lot of their players actually worked for a living and needed to show up for work the next day after a game. The League finally changed the rules, of course after someone got hurt.
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Old Tue Aug 18, 2009, 11:36am
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While I would not expect EJ's from the runners actions alone, I would fully expect EJ's for the fight that followed. I played for a coach who would bench you if you didn't protect yourself in those kind of situations.
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Old Tue Aug 18, 2009, 02:06pm
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Don't confuse being a pro with knowing how to play the game. In fact, that's why rookie ball exists, because if you watch the games consistently, it is very clear that these players DON'T know how to play the game, and that's why I would have liked to see the umpire take some action here. After the collision at the plate, if there was jockeying from the bench, he could have issued warnings (which the NY-Penn League demands of you in a situation like this). Even if there were no warnings after the collision, when a pitch goes over the guys head, he has to go. Throwing at someone's head should not be tolerated at ANY level, and the players need to learn that. It was negligent by the plate umpire to not do anything after the pitch went over his head. If he threw at his lower back, ok. That's part of the game. Headhunting is not. He gave the pitcher another free pass to take another shot at the guys head. How would the report have looked if the batter got hit in the head on the second attempt and it seriously injured him? What kind of game management is that? There's a difference between letting the players handle things and letting things get out of control. It would have looked much better to his supervisors if the umpire was aggressive in the situation and sent that pitcher to the showers and put an end to that nonsense right there.

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Old Tue Aug 18, 2009, 03:35pm
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I would have run F1 the second he threw at the guys head.

Remember, the OP said that the batter was the guy who ran F2 over.

Sorry, gotta disguise it a bit better than that.

If he plunks the back, fine, whatever.

I'm normally the type of guy that says "allow both sides to get their shot in, and warn" particularly at higher levels. But you can't ignore going at a guy's head when it is super obvious as it was in the OP.

If you let it go, you are then allowing the other team to go back at somebody else's head, and then you have real problems.

Gotta know who the batter is in this situation. If its another batter 2 innings later you probably have to let it go. But the same player + head = instant EJ.
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