Check Swing Appeal

[Tom H.]

Originally Posted by martynva

R1 with 3-1 count on the batter. Batter attempts to check swing, PU calls "ball". When BR is half way to first, catcher finally asks PU to appeal to FU, and FU says "Yes, he went". By now R1 is on second. F3 says "hey, he needs to come back to first" and Runner obliges and returns to first. No Problems, but ...

What if Runner stayed at Second? Live ball, why should he return?

What if F-3 called for the ball and tagged the runner as he returned to first? Again, live ball, no requirement to return, shame on him for listening to F3?

Am I missing something? Yea, perhaps stupid all around but......
started with a 3-1 count. BU says 'yes he did' so now count is 3 balls and 2 strikes. The award (on ball 4) is negated AND I don't care where he is now he has to come back to the plate and complete his at bat. Go ahead and tag him....he has not become a runner yet!
Unless I am missing something and am sure someone will point it out if I am.
BTW---how the heck did he get all the way to 2B???

[jicecone]

Originally Posted by Tom H.

Am I missing something? Yea, perhaps stupid all around but......
started with a 3-1 count. BU says 'yes he did' so now count is 3 balls and 2 strikes. The award (on ball 4) is negated AND I don't care where he is now he has to come back to the plate and complete his at bat. Go ahead and tag him....he has not become a runner yet!
Unless I am missing something and am sure someone will point it out if I am.
BTW---how the heck did he get all the way to 2B???

Tom , you missed the runner, R1, the player on first base, the person that is standing next to the first basemen, the player that moved up to second base.

Sorry to break thenews to ya.

[Tom H.]

Originally Posted by jicecone

Tom , you missed the runner, R1, the player on first base, the person that is standing next to the first basemen, the player that moved up to second base.

Sorry to break thenews to ya.

Don't ever say your sorry -- it is a sign of weakness....

Geeze, you would think that I would read the very first part of the post

[jicecone]

Originally Posted by Tom H.

Don't ever say your sorry -- it is a sign of weakness....

Only to those that feel uncomortable about being able to express their feelings.

As an official, NEVER doubt my ability to excerise my authority, when necessary. And whoa to those, that assumed I was weak.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by jicecone

And whoa to those, that assumed I was weak.

A more effective threat might be the more traditional "Woe to those..."