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[jdmara]

Originally Posted by SAump

Your missing the part of rule 3.15 interference, kill it and award/penalize. IOW out at 3B {Intent}, return to 3B (Unintent) and play on (no interference {meaning NONE}. This is justified by rule but you do not choose this option. The ball went directly from ODH to DBT and you state "unintent by offense on throw amounts to no interference of ODH, {see 3.15 BC at 1B}." You play on and award 2 bases because of the "bad" throw. R1 scores from 3B and B/R scores or stops at 3B. {Unsuppported by SLAS, et all } ...

Slow down...Breath...I did not mention in my post (that you cited) ANYTHING about 3.15...I just asked for a summary of the original play (so I could bring it up to some local people) and then commented I could not find an opinion/interpretation from Jim Evans, Wendelstedt boys, etc as your post seemingly led me to believe.

I haven't personally insulted you so you need to just take a breath and read the post. I am not attacking you. I don't ask questions to trap you, I have better things to worry about then entrapping you into a frivolous argument.

If you have the time, feel free to let me know if I have all the facts in my summary of the play

-Josh

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by jdmara

If you have the time, feel free to let me know if I have all the facts in my summary of the play

Josh,

Here is a summary of the play, transcribed by our own Mr. Umpire on another forum:

"R1, R2, no outs. Batter hits ball to RF for a hit. R2 scores easily. By the time F9 is getting the ball in, R1 is rounding 3B. F3 gets the throw and turns and throws to F2. F3's throw is off line and is about 12 to 15 feet towards the 1B dugout side of HP. During all of this, the on deck batter has come to pick the bat up. He has the bat in hand when the off line throw hits it and goes out of play. There was no intent by the on deck batter to hit the ball or even get in the way."

This is a fair and accurate description of the OP from the deleted thread, which was originally posted by Tim C (and deleted by Tim C. )

[MrUmpire]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

Josh,

Here is a summary of the play, transcribed by our own Mr. Umpire on another forum:

As I don't post on any other forum, must be a different Mr. Umpire

Sincerely,

Mrumpire

[GA Umpire]

Originally Posted by MrUmpire

As I don't post on any other forum, must be a different Mr. Umpire

Sincerely,

Mrumpire

That would be me. You and Mr Umpire on this forum stole my name. So, I had to make a different one.

So, I use your alias on other forums so they think it is you and come yelling at you.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by GA Umpire

That would be me. You and Mr Umpire on this forum stole my name. So, I had to make a different one.

So, I use your alias on other forums so they think it is you and come yelling at you.

All this time I thought I was arguing with this guy! Cut that out!!!

[MrUmpire]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

All this time I thought I was arguing with this guy! Cut that out!!!

I would be the one who knows NOT to say, "by the waste side."

[SAump]

Originally Posted by MrUmpire

As I don't post on any other forum, must be a different Mr. Umpire

Sincerely,

Mrumpire

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve View Post
Josh,

Here is a summary of the play, transcribed by our own Mr. Umpire on another forum:
As I don't post on any other forum, must be a different Mr. Umpire

Sincerely,

Mrumpire

SDS is technically correct, which part of his statement do you dispute?

"There was no intent by the on deck batter to hit the ball or even get in the way."

5.08 However, if the coach interferes with a thrown ball, the runner is out.

JEA - if an overthrow should touch a coach, the umpire should determine if the coach used his best efforts to avoid the overthrow and/or fielder or whether his actions were palpably designed to interfere.

[jdmara]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

Josh,

Here is a summary of the play, transcribed by our own Mr. Umpire on another forum:

"R1, R2, no outs. Batter hits ball to RF for a hit. R2 scores easily. By the time F9 is getting the ball in, R1 is rounding 3B. F3 gets the throw and turns and throws to F2. F3's throw is off line and is about 12 to 15 feet towards the 1B dugout side of HP. During all of this, the on deck batter has come to pick the bat up. He has the bat in hand when the off line throw hits it and goes out of play. There was no intent by the on deck batter to hit the ball or even get in the way."

This is a fair and accurate description of the OP from the deleted thread, which was originally posted by Tim C (and deleted by Tim C. )

Thanks Steve...that's all I was looking for

-Josh

[jicecone]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

Josh,

Here is a summary of the play, transcribed by our own Mr. Umpire on another forum:

"R1, R2, no outs. Batter hits ball to RF for a hit. R2 scores easily. By the time F9 is getting the ball in, R1 is rounding 3B. F3 gets the throw and turns and throws to F2. F3's throw is off line and is about 12 to 15 feet towards the 1B dugout side of HP. During all of this, the on deck batter has come to pick the bat up. He has the bat in hand when the off line throw hits it and goes out of play. There was no intent by the on deck batter to hit the ball or even get in the way."

This is a fair and accurate description of the OP from the deleted thread, which was originally posted by Tim C (and deleted by Tim C. )

Wait a minute, you left all the part that says, "at your discretion you may say that the play happened at HP because it will lead to record breaking threads".