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Old Wed Jul 15, 2009, 12:11am
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It's fairly common in pro ball. Cuts way down on the chatter from the dugout & let's F1/F2 settle in to the PU's zone. Given the number of subs in a game like this it's an easy way to make things go smooth & easy.
Frankly, as I get older I find myself doing this occasionally. Hasn't been a problem yet. I try not to do it on every pitch or in a way where it sounds like I'm justifying a call.
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Old Wed Jul 15, 2009, 05:13am
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Frankly, as I get older I find myself doing this occasionally. Hasn't been a problem yet. I try not to do it on every pitch or in a way where it sounds like I'm justifying a call.
For me I will on the close ones early. For the most part an F2 with a clue figures things out quickly & goes with the flow. From that point he (F2) carries the message to F1 / bench "Bring it up a bit Joe", etc.
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ball location

Ball: most of the time (for inside or outside), I'll look in the direction the pitch was after F2 catches it. That's the only indicator I'll give unless the batter asks directly.
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Old Wed Jul 15, 2009, 09:13am
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Ball: most of the time (for inside or outside), I'll look in the direction the pitch was after F2 catches it. That's the only indicator I'll give unless the batter asks directly.
This is how I do it too. I don't want to start calling out location for fear of overdoing it and sounding like a play-by-play announcer.
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Old Wed Jul 15, 2009, 12:55pm
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[QUOTE=scarolinablue;614660]OK, two very interesting things I observed in the first inning:
"Jeter was hit on the hands"
Did anyone else hear the clunk of the bat knob. How did DeMuth determine the ball hit Jeter and not the bat?
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Old Wed Jul 15, 2009, 01:16pm
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"Jeter was hit on the hands"
Did anyone else hear the clunk of the bat knob. How did DeMuth determine the ball hit Jeter and not the bat?
DeMuth ruled that the ball hit Jeter's hand first, then the knob, or else simultaneously, which is a HBP.
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Old Wed Jul 15, 2009, 02:02pm
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DeMuth ruled that the ball hit Jeter's hand first, then the knob, or else simultaneously, which is a HBP.
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Old Wed Jul 15, 2009, 02:46pm
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What do you mean, Kimosabe?

Okay, is this better: He must have seen it with his eyes.
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Old Wed Jul 15, 2009, 02:44pm
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DeMuth is distinctly giving the location of many of the ball calls (I know I've heard "outside" and "ball down"). Any defenders out there for this...seems like little league to me!

Whoa! I teach LL umpires, and I'll step on the neck of those that are so insecure about their calls that they need to explain them by calling location. All it does it induce arguing. "THAT WASN'T DOWN!", as opposed to leaving them guessing. "maybe it was outside".
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Whoa! I teach LL umpires, and I'll step on the neck of those that are so insecure about their calls that they need to explain them by calling location. All it does it induce arguing. "THAT WASN'T DOWN!", as opposed to leaving them guessing. "maybe it was outside".
One of the first peices of advice I ever got from a vet was this... whenever a coach asks you directly where a pitch was, agree with him. "Was that outside?" "Yes." No sense in making them think you missed it on the 1 dimension they are more sure about.
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Old Wed Jul 15, 2009, 05:44pm
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One of the first peices of advice I ever got from a vet was this... whenever a coach asks you directly where a pitch was, agree with him. "Was that outside?" "Yes." No sense in making them think you missed it on the 1 dimension they are more sure about.
I was taught: "Yes ... and low."
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Whoa! I teach LL umpires, and I'll step on the neck of those that are so insecure about their calls that they need to explain them by calling location. All it does it induce arguing. "THAT WASN'T DOWN!", as opposed to leaving them guessing. "maybe it was outside".
I could see that being a problem for LL umpires.
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