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Old Fri Jul 17, 2009, 09:59am
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No. But, he is not saying "I can do what I want and you can't stop me". There is a difference and you seem to be missing it.
No, he didnt say that, he simply said "I can take as much time as I want". Obviously hes just another player who doesnt know that he only has X seconds to get back in the batters box. I agree if the batter says "you cant stop me, or starts saying something with his hands behind his ears..." then that could be an ejectionable offense

and besides, according to MLB rule 6.02 C
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If the batter refuses to take his position in the batter’s box during his time at bat, the umpire shall call a strike on the batter. The ball is dead, and no runners may advance. After the penalty, the batter may take his proper position and the regular ball and strike count shall continue. If the batter does not take his proper position before three strikes have been called, the batter shall be declared out.
The punishment for not getting back in the batters box is a strike, not an ejection.

As I hear all the time on here, the umps job is to enforce all the rules as written, not to administer their own personal views on various situations.
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Old Fri Jul 17, 2009, 10:10am
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After the batter's demonstration of arguing balls and strikes, and then comes back with a comment like that. It had nothing to do with him refusing to get in the box. I guess only so much can be conveyed in writing for others to understand. I can imagine the actions of the batter as he is doing all of this as to say "I can do what I want and you can't tell me what to do." EJ time at that point. Get another batter who is really want to play the game and not be a jerk.

I have no problem with him being EJ. Next time, he will behave better towards the umpire. If he hadn't done all of his previous shenanigans, then I would wonder about the EJ. But, with his "golf swing" demonstration and saying something just to be a jerk, that calls for an appropriate EJ. Too bad, you seem to condone this type of behavior.
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Old Fri Jul 17, 2009, 12:23pm
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After the batter's demonstration of arguing balls and strikes, and then comes back with a comment like that. It had nothing to do with him refusing to get in the box. I guess only so much can be conveyed in writing for others to understand. I can imagine the actions of the batter as he is doing all of this as to say "I can do what I want and you can't tell me what to do." EJ time at that point. Get another batter who is really want to play the game and not be a jerk.

I have no problem with him being EJ. Next time, he will behave better towards the umpire. If he hadn't done all of his previous shenanigans, then I would wonder about the EJ. But, with his "golf swing" demonstration and saying something just to be a jerk, that calls for an appropriate EJ. Too bad, you seem to condone this type of behavior.
Where are you getting this from????
all he said was "i can take as much time as i want". he obviously didnt know the rules about the batter cant take as much time as they want. there was no "you cant tell me what to do attitude, only a simple misunderstanding of the rules"

ill ask again, So lets assume a different situation, a batter steps out in between pitches, goes into some extended nomar readjusting/taking a few swings routine, the ump says something to the effect of "batter step into the box..." the batter says "hold on, im not ready yet" do you really expect the batter to be ejected here?
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Old Fri Jul 17, 2009, 12:26pm
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Where are you getting this from????
all he said was "i can take as much time as i want". he obviously didnt know the rules about the batter cant take as much time as they want. there was no "you cant tell me what to do attitude, only a simple misunderstanding of the rules"

ill ask again, So lets assume a different situation, a batter steps out in between pitches, goes into some extended nomar readjusting/taking a few swings routine, the ump says something to the effect of "batter step into the box..." the batter says "hold on, im not ready yet" do you really expect the batter to be ejected here?
Forget it. Don't worry about it. Life goes on even though you don't understand.
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Old Fri Jul 17, 2009, 12:29pm
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ill ask again, So lets assume a different situation, a batter steps out in between pitches, goes into some extended nomar readjusting/taking a few swings routine, the ump says something to the effect of "batter step into the box..." the batter says "hold on, im not ready yet" do you really expect the batter to be ejected here?
What part of GA's "It had nothing to do with him refusing to get in the box." did you not understand?
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Old Fri Jul 17, 2009, 01:57pm
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Where are you getting this from????
all he said was "i can take as much time as i want". he obviously didnt know the rules about the batter cant take as much time as they want. there was no "you cant tell me what to do attitude, only a simple misunderstanding of the rules"
Here is where he is getting it from:

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He stepped out of the batter's box, started to say something under his breath. I told him lets go, then he proceeded to turn toward his dugout, practice his GOLF SWING. I again told him lets go.... he then proceeded to tell me "I CAN TAKE AS LONG AS I WANT"..... so I said give me a new batter, the batter is EJ!!!
Please take notice of the CAPITALIZED LETTERS. Now, did you hear that? I just yelled at you!!! ARE YOU HEARING THE WORDS THAT ARE COMING OUT OF MY KEYBOARD?????

Looks to me like the OP is demonstrating that the batter yelled at the umpire. He most definitely wasn't just "unfamiliar with the rule."

Hey, did you know that you are the only one here who doesn't understand this? Maybe it's not us after all.
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Old Fri Jul 17, 2009, 02:12pm
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Please take notice of the CAPITALIZED LETTERS. Now, did you hear that? I just yelled at you!!! ARE YOU HEARING THE WORDS THAT ARE COMING OUT OF MY KEYBOARD?????
Every time I read this, I just have to laugh a little.
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Old Fri Jul 17, 2009, 10:15am
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No, he didnt say that, he simply said "I can take as much time as I want". Obviously hes just another player who doesnt know that he only has X seconds to get back in the batters box. I agree if the batter says "you cant stop me, or starts saying something with his hands behind his ears..." then that could be an ejectionable offense

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The punishment for not getting back in the batters box is a strike, not an ejection.

As I hear all the time on here, the umps job is to enforce all the rules as written, not to administer their own personal views on various situations.
And, he did enforce the rules as written. All of that taken together is unsportsmanlike conduct. Violates 9.01(d).
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