Marty Foster's call at 3rd base today

[zombywoof]

If the umpire saw an attempted tag and the ball got there first and the fielder even missed the tag after seeing it in on replay, then I don't see a problem with the ump's call and can easily back up his claim he called the play as he saw it, but if the umpire, as in this case, flat out admits he had the runner out because the ball got there first and saw no reason in his mind to even make sure the fielder attempts to apply the tag says this umpire had zero chance in getting the call right because he has his own rules.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by zombywoof

If the umpire saw an attempted tag and the ball got there first and the fielder even missed the tag after seeing it in on replay, then I don't see a problem with the ump's call and can easily back up his claim he called the play as he saw it, but if the umpire, as in this case, flat out admits he had the runner out because the ball got there first and saw no reason in his mind to even make sure the fielder attempts to apply the tag says this umpire had zero chance in getting the call right because he has his own rules.

Again, spoken like a true fan of the game. But not spoken like an umpire. This is an umpire forum. Full of umpires. Plus a respected coach or two.

Yes, Marty Foster shouldn't have let the cat out of the bag that we call these plays outs because that's the way Jeter and all the managers in the world want them called. Only when it didn't favor Jeter did he have a problem with the call/explanation. He shouldn't have even opened his big yap in the first place, and none of this BS would have happened.

Derek Jeter has benefitted from the same call hundreds of times in his career, but this time, since he knew he screwed up by trying to steal 3rd with 2 outs and got caught, wanted to deflect the blame from himself and direct it onto Foster. Really classy guy. He and Ascrod are a pair to draw to, I tell ya.

[zombywoof]

Sure Jeter screwed up and he deserved to be out, especially since he had no business taking that base unless he can make it, but the fielder has to finish the play and the umpire should've looked for the tag. From his argument, a tag never has to be made because the ball got there first. There's no defending this umpire. He screwed up big time.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by zombywoof

Sure Jeter screwed up and he deserved to be out, especially since he had no business taking that base unless he can make it, but the fielder has to finish the play and the umpire should've looked for the tag. From his argument, a tag never has to be made because the ball got there first. There's no defending this umpire. He screwed up big time.

The only thing he screwed up was telling Jeter what he told him. The call was right. It's not that the ball was there first. That's not the criteria. It's that the ball was so far ahead of the runner, and the tag was down in front of the base long before Jeter arrived. That's why he's out. The fielder has the right (and I feel, responsibility) to get his hand out of there to avoid any injury to himself or the runner.

I don't give a rat's a$$ what Hirschbeck said to the media. He had to say that because Foster told the secret. John was trying to get the genie back in the bottle by saying that they no longer call it like that. Bullsquat! They always have, and always will, give the fielder the benefit of the doubt when the ball beats the runner by an obviously large margin.

[jicecone]

Originally Posted by zombywoof

Sure Jeter screwed up and he deserved to be out, especially since he had no business taking that base unless he can make it, but the fielder has to finish the play and the umpire should've looked for the tag. From his argument, a tag never has to be made because the ball got there first. There's no defending this umpire. He screwed up big time.

It's one thing not to get it, but when you don't get, that you don't get it.

Good Bye

[Rich]

Originally Posted by jicecone

It's one thing not to get it, but when you don't get, that you don't get it.

Good Bye

And who really cares, anyway.

I think Jeter should get a few safe calls in the next week or two when he pulls the glove up early, is all. Maybe a few neighborhood plays don't go his way, too...