UNC - ASU Plate Umpire

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by GoodwillRef

I use the scirrors and sometimes go down on a knee for college games. I think I get the best look at pitches on a knee.

I would work on one knee, except the batter and catcher would have to help me up after every pitch.

[GoodwillRef]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

I would work on one knee, except the batter and catcher would have to help me up after every pitch.

Nice...we could post the video

[Rich]

Originally Posted by GoodwillRef

I use the scirrors and sometimes go down on a knee for college games. I think I get the best look at pitches on a knee.

Of course you do. You're about 8 feet tall.

[Klokard]

I tried the scissors in a Fed game about 5 years ago. I had a pop fly go straight up and back. The catcher turned quickly to his left. I tried opening the gate and fell flat on my a$$. Next pitch went back to the box.

[mdezinno]

Can you explain the two positions kinda new to terms

[SanDiegoSteve]

Scissors



Box



Gerry Davis (GD)

[mdezinno]

thank you Steve I am new and just trying to get better. thanks

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by mdezinno

thank you Steve I am new and just trying to get better. thanks

Experiment with all three. Find the one that works for you.

[mdezinno]

I ump LL now with there equipment just ordered a bunch of gear from ump-attire and going to take some classes this winter hope to ump alot next spring

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

Experiment with all three. Find the one that works for you.

[SAump]

Originally Posted by mdezinno

I ump LL now with there equipment just ordered a bunch of gear from ump-attire and going to take some classes this winter hope to ump alot next spring

Insurance companies, MLB, and both pro schools have alerted umpires about the risk of severe neck injury primarily due to the scissors stance. Many severe neck injuries have been reported by MLB umpires who primarily used this scissors stance over a longer period of time {years}. The idea is to get the trunk of your body in a natural position to provide full support for the weight of your head. That extra 14 pound appendage is not designed to lean so far ahead of the trunk of your body for 3 full hours. Some umpires refuse to heed the warning messages.

Good luck!

Happy Father's Day Weekend to All

[GA Umpire]

Originally Posted by SAump

Insurance companies, MLB, and both pro schools have alerted umpires about the risk of severe neck injury primarily due to the scissors stance. Many severe neck injuries have been reported by MLB umpires who primarily used this scissors stance over a longer period of time {years}. The idea is to get the trunk of your body in a natural position to provide full support for the weight of your head. That extra 14 pound appenditure is not designed to lean so far ahead of the trunk of your body for 3 full hours. Some umpires refuse to heed the warning messages.

Good luck!

Happy Father's Day Weekend to All

I heeded it. Although I never had the problems, I could definitely see the problems which could be incurred and quit with the scissors.

[Kevin Finnerty]

I'm GD with a wider stance than the guy in the picture. I'm also a big fan of the tuck-the-hands-in-behind-the-knee-cup method that the guy in the picture employs.

[DonInKansas]

The picture of the guy in the box stance makes my back hurt. He needs to get a bit more upright.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

Experiment with all three. Find the one that works for you.

I disagree. Before you experiment with the scissors stance, you should know that MiLB is actively discouraging (if not quite banning) it, due to the strain it places on the cervical spine. It is not taught in pro school.

[Kevin Finnerty]

I'll say it again, the scissors is unthinkable.