Interference?

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

NCAA has a specific AR on this -- the batter is (still) out, the ball is dead, no runners advance. IOW, it's another example of "weak interference"

I'd like to rule that same way in FED, but since they don't really have that concept in FED, it wouldn't surprise me that the answer is "R1 is out."

I agree, though I'd lean toward a stiffer penalty for the (stupid) play where the batter takes off to 1B, as opposed to the play where he is moving toward the dugout and inadvertently contacts the ball.

It makes a difference when players are doing what they're supposed to do.

[sodo]

I guess I should clarify. Even though we call it a Colt league here, it is more of a league to get players time that did not get it during the HS season, thus they operate it by using NFHS rules.

I scanned the NFHS rules and situation books from this year and I cannot really find any defining rulling for this. I could go with no call based on player intent and defense put the ball in play, dead ball based on non-runner contact (batter did strike out so he is not a base runner), and even calling base runner out if I thought catcher would have have a legitamate chance of geting him.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by sodo

I guess I should clarify. Even though we call it a Colt league here, it is more of a league to get players time that did not get it during the HS season, thus they operate it by using NFHS rules.

Colt League® is the property of PONY® Baseball. Here, we call this kind of league "Coaches League," and it is used during the summer and fall to evaluate the talent of the returning varsity, JV and Frosh talent, and it uses NFHS rules.

[dash_riprock]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

Colt League® is the property of PONY® Baseball. Here, we call this kind of league "Coaches League," and it is used during the summer and fall to evaluate the talent of the returning varsity, JV and Frosh talent, and it uses NFHS rules.

Around here it's PAL. Same concept.

[sodo]

If we call the runner back or out for interference, what about this situation. Runner at second, batter hits ground ball and gets thrown out at first. Runner on second takes off. On the transfer the fielder looses the ball and the batter/runner hits the ball as he runs by first and knocks it to the outfield. Do we dead ball it and bring the runner back? My iterp would be to play on.......is this somewhat the same situation as the original thread other than that a dopey batter getting struck out and running?

[mbyron]

Not the same: in your sitch the BR has a right to overrun 1B (he's doing what he's "supposed" to).

In the OP, a batter out on strike 3 with 1B occupied and less than 2 outs has no right to run the bases.

[SAump]

It use to be a common discussion among umpires whether the defense should know the situation or not. FED issued a ruling requiring the umpire to give voice to the defensive player. The umpire should yell, "Batter's Out," as soon as he notices the "B/r" attempting to reach 1B when 1B is occupied and there are less than 2 out.

[DG]

Originally Posted by sodo

If we call the runner back or out for interference, what about this situation. Runner at second, batter hits ground ball and gets thrown out at first. Runner on second takes off. On the transfer the fielder looses the ball and the batter/runner hits the ball as he runs by first and knocks it to the outfield. Do we dead ball it and bring the runner back? My interp would be to play on.......

I assume "on the transfer" means F3 dropped on the transfer. If the BR who was out unintentionally makes contact with the dropped ball I think I would have live ball, play on. If intentional then dead ball, runners return TOI.