Interference?

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by sodo

I guess I should clarify. Even though we call it a Colt league here, it is more of a league to get players time that did not get it during the HS season, thus they operate it by using NFHS rules.

Colt League® is the property of PONY® Baseball. Here, we call this kind of league "Coaches League," and it is used during the summer and fall to evaluate the talent of the returning varsity, JV and Frosh talent, and it uses NFHS rules.

[dash_riprock]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

Colt League® is the property of PONY® Baseball. Here, we call this kind of league "Coaches League," and it is used during the summer and fall to evaluate the talent of the returning varsity, JV and Frosh talent, and it uses NFHS rules.

Around here it's PAL. Same concept.

[sodo]

If we call the runner back or out for interference, what about this situation. Runner at second, batter hits ground ball and gets thrown out at first. Runner on second takes off. On the transfer the fielder looses the ball and the batter/runner hits the ball as he runs by first and knocks it to the outfield. Do we dead ball it and bring the runner back? My iterp would be to play on.......is this somewhat the same situation as the original thread other than that a dopey batter getting struck out and running?

[mbyron]

Not the same: in your sitch the BR has a right to overrun 1B (he's doing what he's "supposed" to).

In the OP, a batter out on strike 3 with 1B occupied and less than 2 outs has no right to run the bases.

[SAump]

It use to be a common discussion among umpires whether the defense should know the situation or not. FED issued a ruling requiring the umpire to give voice to the defensive player. The umpire should yell, "Batter's Out," as soon as he notices the "B/r" attempting to reach 1B when 1B is occupied and there are less than 2 out.

[SAump]

There is a similar scenario where the batter takes ball 4 and is awarded 1B. The batter attempts to toss his bat back towards the dugout at the same time the catcher attempts to pick off the runner on 3B. Many claim that this is interference on part of the batter.

Think about the situation as it relates to the OP. There is a very fine line here too and the defensive coach will be out there requesting why the PU didn't call interference. The PU has to be on top of it before it becomes a "what just happened" moment.

[GA Umpire]

This is no different than this situation. My ruling is for OBR since I don't know the Fed rule which may correspond. Rule 7.09(e). If there is a play possible on R1 then R1 is out. If there is no play, then there can be no INT.

Play: R1 is stealing. Batter strikes out. On follow through, steps across the plate and INT with catcher's throw. Since batter is already out, he can't be called out for INT. So, R1 is called out for teammate's INT after being put out.

So, it depends if defense has a play or not. If they did, rule INT and R1 out. If not, read batter's intent. If intentional, stop play and put R1 at last legally acquired base before INT. If not intentional, let play go.

This is how I would handle the situation.

[DG]

Originally Posted by sodo

If we call the runner back or out for interference, what about this situation. Runner at second, batter hits ground ball and gets thrown out at first. Runner on second takes off. On the transfer the fielder looses the ball and the batter/runner hits the ball as he runs by first and knocks it to the outfield. Do we dead ball it and bring the runner back? My interp would be to play on.......

I assume "on the transfer" means F3 dropped on the transfer. If the BR who was out unintentionally makes contact with the dropped ball I think I would have live ball, play on. If intentional then dead ball, runners return TOI.