Batter picks up live ball

[falsecut]

I received this from a fellow umpire. I'm assuming that the batter picked up the ball after the runner had already crossed home plate. My dilemma with determining the correct call is that the interference rules cover plays where the batter interferes with a play at home (which in this sitch the play at home is over since the runner has legally crossed home plate before it occurs). This is youth in-house park district ball, FED rules. My thought is run scores, batter out, runner stays at third.

This is exactly how it was sent to me.
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How would you have called this?
No outs, runnners on 2nd and third.

Passed ball Runner on third scores. Man on second moves to third. The
throw from the cather to the pitcher on the play at home gets away and
the batter pickes up the ball. I was the field ump. I saw it called
dead ball. We then called the batter out. Was this correct and what
rule cover this.

[GA Umpire]

My question is what play was being made? If no play, call Time and stop runners. Then, warn him.

If R2 was trying to score, then you have interference by a teammate not BI. So, 7.11 would apply in that instance and R2 would be out. Batter is not out in this case since it is no longer BI since he didn't interfere with the catcher's initial throw or play.

If R2 stops at 3B, then "Time" with a warning. If R2 tries to score with the possibility of a play to be made on him, then R2 is out by rule 7.11 otherwise, call "Time" and put him back at 3B with a warning.

That is how I envision making this ruling.

[jwwashburn]

I agree GA, if there was no play being made and the offense realized no advantage, then why would the batter be out? I do not have the FED rules in front of me, but I recall the wording about a PLAY being made.

[GA Umpire]

Oops, missed the disclaimer about FED rules. My interp is for OBR.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by GA Umpire

Oops, missed the disclaimer about FED rules. My interp is for OBR.

it would be the same. No play, no interference.

[falsecut]

Let's assume a play, since I never said there wasn't. All I posted was that the ball was overthrown to the pitcher covering. Perhaps it would have gone all the way down the line giving the runner a chance to score from third had the batter not picked it up or perhaps the runner had rounded third and was part way down the line prior to the ball being picked up by the batter right in front of the third baseman.

I wasn't there so I don't have direct knowledge of where the other fielders and the other base runner were but let's say there may have been a potential play that was short-circuited by the batter and re-visit your rulings.

[Blue37]

Originally Posted by jwwashburn

I agree GA, if there was no play being made and the offense realized no advantage, then why would the batter be out? I do not have the FED rules in front of me, but I recall the wording about a PLAY being made.

Would your answer change if you were the defensive coach and the game was a 9U game and the umpire was a young adult?

[GA Umpire]

Originally Posted by Blue37

Would your answer change if you were the defensive coach and the game was a 9U game and the umpire was a young adult?

Blue, I don't think this is the thread for that. Complain about it on his other thread. Don't chase to other threads. It ruins it for the rest of us on here.

[Forest Ump]

Originally Posted by falsecut

Passed ball Runner on third scores. Man on second moves to third. The
throw from the cather to the pitcher on the play at home gets away and
the batter pickes up the ball. I was the field ump. I saw it called
dead ball. We then called the batter out. Was this correct and what
rule cover this.

The rule book(s) list every way a player can be out. This one isn't in there.