balk on the 45 degree lhp

[kcg NC2Ablu]

this weekend working woodbat this "college pitcher" ( he was terrible I dont know what college would pick him up) was almost literally striding directly to home and comming to first with the ball for the pick off. We were working 3 man and I was at first so I could see it clear as day. The skip came out to argue after I called the second balk got in my face and said " how can you call that ?" and he gave me the gambit of how this kid has done this for 2 years and never been called. how many other people are seeing this go on in there games?

[mbyron]

As described, this is a balk in every code, every level.

[ozzy6900]

Originally Posted by kcg NC2Ablu

this weekend working woodbat this "college pitcher" ( he was terrible I dont know what college would pick him up) was almost literally striding directly to home and comming to first with the ball for the pick off. We were working 3 man and I was at first so I could see it clear as day. The skip came out to argue after I called the second balk got in my face and said " how can you call that ?" and he gave me the gambit of how this kid has done this for 2 years and never been called. how many other people are seeing this go on in there games?

"Well guess what coach, he's been balking for 2 years!"

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by kcg NC2Ablu

We were working 3 man and I was at first so I could see it clear as day.

What did the plate umpire have on the play(s)?

[kcg NC2Ablu]

He thought the ball was comming home thats what he said at post game. infact I believe his exact words were something to the effect of " I think that if you didnt call those I woulda told you that we were gonna work two man the next game and be we I mean me and mike ( U3)"

[Bishopcolle]

Originally Posted by kcg NC2Ablu

He thought the ball was comming home thats what he said at post game. infact I believe his exact words were something to the effect of " I think that if you didnt call those I woulda told you that we were gonna work two man the next game and be we I mean me and mike ( U3)"

I think he can say the word "Balk!" as easy as you....If he can see it, he can call it, even in three-man.....

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by Bishopcolle

I think he can say the word "Balk!" as easy as you....If he can see it, he can call it, even in three-man.....

Absolutely. All umpires should at least echo the call. This could save a big argument when the coach hears it coming from every direction. Isn't that why we have partners in the first place? I've never been too shy to call a balk, or echo my partner's balk call, whether I saw the balk or not. If my partner says it's a balk, it's a balk.

[JJ]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

Absolutely. All umpires should at least echo the call. This could save a big argument when the coach hears it coming from every direction. Isn't that why we have partners in the first place? I've never been too shy to call a balk, or echo my partner's balk call, whether I saw the balk or not. If my partner says it's a balk, it's a balk.

Only one problem here - if I echo a partner's balk call, and the coach comes out to ME and asks, "What did he do?", what do I say? "He balked?" "I'm only echoing my partner's call - ask him?" I'll call "Time" when I see another partner do it, but I won't yell "Balk" unless I see the balk.

JJ

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by kcg NC2Ablu

He thought the ball was comming home thats what he said at post game. infact I believe his exact words were something to the effect of " I think that if you didnt call those I woulda told you that we were gonna work two man the next game and be we I mean me and mike ( U3)"

Then he should have called it, too. (And, that's different from "echoing the balk call.")

[dash_riprock]

Originally Posted by JJ

Only one problem here - if I echo a partner's balk call, and the coach comes out to ME and asks, "What did he do?", what do I say? "He balked?" "I'm only echoing my partner's call - ask him?" I'll call "Time" when I see another partner do it, but I won't yell "Balk" unless I see the balk.

JJ

You shouldn't have to do that. Your partner (the one who called the balk) should see the coach coming out and intercept him to explain the call. If he doesn't, then by all means send the coach to the umpire who made the initial call.

[kcg NC2Ablu]

the only problem with him calling it ... is wait... he didnt ... and he wouldnt have .... I dont know his reasoning but he said he wouldnt have called it from the plate... but that it was definately a block

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by kcg NC2Ablu

I dont know his reasoning but he said he wouldnt have called it from the plate

Huh? It's PRIMARILY the plate umpire's call. It would be much more understandable if he had it and you didn't.

[justanotherblue]

While working a wood bat league last year, F1 using a jump turn. Sent the catcher out to warn his pitcher he wasnt gaining any distance, and I would balk him the next time he did it. Coach between innings after casual discussion says, you mean he has a damn good balk move. I agreed.

[justanotherblue]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Huh? It's PRIMARILY the plate umpire's call. It would be much more understandable if he had it and you didn't.

I agree, plate umpire should be able to make this call.

[justanotherblue]

Originally Posted by dash_riprock

You shouldn't have to do that. Your partner (the one who called the balk) should see the coach coming out and intercept him to explain the call. If he doesn't, then by all means send the coach to the umpire who made the initial call.

Dash has it. The calling umpire should approach the coach as he is patting his chest saying, I got it coach, that's a balk, he did.....