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View Poll Results: Do you own the J/R Manual and/or BRD?
Yes, just the J/R manual 12 18.18%
Yes, just the BRD 12 18.18%
Both, the J/R and BRD 27 40.91%
No 15 22.73%
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Old Fri May 29, 2009, 08:52pm
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i find more useful baseball rules for idiots, by t. Mccarver and j. Morgan.
lol!!!
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Old Fri May 29, 2009, 08:59pm
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I know what both publications are, but I'm not going to pay for either one of them unless they were up to date and of a better price range.
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Old Fri May 29, 2009, 09:16pm
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My J/R is 2008 edition. I buy an update about every 4 years. My BRD is 2008 edition. I buy an update about every 2 years. I also have a Study Guide: College Baseball Rules from 2005. If serious about getting to know rules better, and work games with different rule sets, you need both J/R and BRD.

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Old Sat May 30, 2009, 03:07am
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I know what both publications are, but I'm not going to pay for either one of them unless they were up to date and of a better price range.
The BRD is $29 and J/R is $39 from Gerry Davis. Those are pretty fairly priced considering their content. I have one book at work that is about Data Warehousing by Ralph Kimball which runs about $60. That sounds like a lot of money for a book until you realize that Ralpha Kimball is considered a leading expert in the field of Business Intelligence and Data Warehousing.

Let's not even talk about some of the text books I purchased while in college that I used for just a quarter. The BRD seems downright cheap in comparison.

I didn't know about the BRD, JR Manual, PBUC, etc until I started posting on the various forums. Once I bought and read some of them, I don't know how I umpired without them.
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Old Sat May 30, 2009, 09:21am
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Don't forget that the purchase of those books is tax deductible, which for some of us is like a 15% discount.
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Old Sat May 30, 2009, 10:29am
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Add another $10 to ship the book...so it really is a $40 book
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Old Sat May 30, 2009, 11:06am
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Add another $10 to ship the book...so it really is a $40 book
Which is ludicrous considering a book can be shipped for 2-3 bucks using Media Mail.
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Old Sat May 30, 2009, 12:40pm
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Add another $10 to ship the book...so it really is a $40 book
OK...doesn't changed things much IMO. Order some other things to make the shipping worth the while.
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Old Sat May 30, 2009, 12:56pm
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So you work 1, maybe 2, at most 3 games and it pays for the costs of the books. Big deal. If this is your full time job and your feeding your family with the bucks, I MIGHT understand. (Then again why wouldn't you want to get better and make bigger bucks)

Is your intent to become the best official you can, or just skirt at mediocracy level and collect the bucks? Personnally I always strived for being the best and after some 20+ years at this , I am still learning every day.

I just have difficulty in understanding why some don't want to improve at whatever they do.

Now as for playing golf. I sucked when I started and still suck everytime I play. I always try harder butttttt, I just suck.
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Old Tue Jun 02, 2009, 12:50pm
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Old Thu Mar 25, 2010, 02:44pm
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Hate to bring up an old thread....I'm looking to finally getting around to purchasing a copy of the "Baseball Rule Differences by Carl Childress", but I can't seem to find it online anymore. Any suggestions on where to find it? Is this years not out yet? I'm a little confused

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Old Thu Mar 25, 2010, 08:56pm
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I have MLBUM (I think) and PBUC, also have the CCA for mechanics purposes. May buy the J/R, although I could use a friend's copy anytime I needed it.
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Old Thu Mar 25, 2010, 09:25pm
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I have the JEA, J/R, PBUC Blue Book, MLBUM, BRD, Evans' mechanic tome, PBUC Red Book, CCA. I use the JEA, Evans' mechanics, PBUC Blue, MLBUM.

I think we amateurs stress too much. Minor League umpires use the OBR and PBUC and seem to do okay.
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