“Jaksa/Roder” Manual and BRD

[jdmara]

I would make the assumption that most everyone knows at least what the J/R and BRD are but I've always wonder how many people own them. Lately I've seen to encounter a lot of situations where one or both would be helpful. So I'm thinking about getting a set for myself. Can't have too much in your officiating library, right?

I come to find out that J/R have multiple books! Does anyone own the "More Than 100 Problems With the Official Baseball Rules" or "The Jaksa/Roder Baseball Rules Course" and would recommend them as well?

Thanks

-Josh

[johnnyg08]

I've thought about getting J/R...it's probably a bit better formatted than the BRD...while I like the content of the BRD, sometimes it's tough to read because there doesn't appear to be consistent fonts throughout. For all of the resources I currently have, I'm going to wait for Evans new book to come out and see what that one would cost. That's the one I want...not that the J/R manual is bad by any means...but if I had a choice, which right now we don't...I suppose J/R is not a bad option other than the fact that they're not official interps...but it can certainly help most umpires improve by understanding the rules.

[MajorDave]

Buy them both. You will not regret it. If you are serious about your umpiring then get Jaksa/Roder and BRD. If you think you need the more intensive course or if you are having particular trouble with the rules of baseball get the Jaksa/Roder rules course. I found BRD (I have had 3 so far) and Jaksa/Roder along with the rule books for NCAA, FED and OBR sufficient study for me (along with an average of 230 games per year over the past 4 years) to accurately and effectively apply the rules in the games I work.


By the way, the differing fonts in BRD are to show where the authority comes from for the advice/ruling contained in each section along with the differing levels of rules compared in that tome.

[johnnyg08]

I understand the differnet fonts/authorties. I just need more work out of that book to get used to the format. It's a great tool, no doubt. I certainly do not regret making the purchase.

[SanDiegoSteve]

I have both, but they are both seriously out of date. The J/R is from the early 1990s, and the BRD is a hand-me-down from Rich Ives, and is the 2005 version.

[jdmara]

Originally Posted by SanDiegoSteve

I have both, but they are both seriously out of date. The J/R is from the early 1990s, and the BRD is a hand-me-down from Rich Ives, and is the 2005 version.

Do they update them periodically? I know the BRD they do but does J/R?

-Josh

[bossman72]

Originally Posted by jdmara

Do they update them periodically? I know the BRD they do but does J/R?

-Josh

J/R updated in 07 or 08, which is the version I got...

I would purchase BRD before J/R though

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by jdmara

Do they update them periodically? I know the BRD they do but does J/R?

-Josh

The J/R I have is woefully inaccurate. I will have to break down and buy a new one for next season.

[greymule]

I find more useful Baseball Rules for Idiots, by T. McCarver and J. Morgan.

[JR12]

Originally Posted by greymule

i find more useful baseball rules for idiots, by t. Mccarver and j. Morgan.

lol!!!

[briancurtin]

I know what both publications are, but I'm not going to pay for either one of them unless they were up to date and of a better price range.

[DG]

My J/R is 2008 edition. I buy an update about every 4 years. My BRD is 2008 edition. I buy an update about every 2 years. I also have a Study Guide: College Baseball Rules from 2005. If serious about getting to know rules better, and work games with different rule sets, you need both J/R and BRD.

[Welpe]

Originally Posted by briancurtin

I know what both publications are, but I'm not going to pay for either one of them unless they were up to date and of a better price range.

The BRD is $29 and J/R is $39 from Gerry Davis. Those are pretty fairly priced considering their content. I have one book at work that is about Data Warehousing by Ralph Kimball which runs about $60. That sounds like a lot of money for a book until you realize that Ralpha Kimball is considered a leading expert in the field of Business Intelligence and Data Warehousing.

Let's not even talk about some of the text books I purchased while in college that I used for just a quarter. The BRD seems downright cheap in comparison.

I didn't know about the BRD, JR Manual, PBUC, etc until I started posting on the various forums. Once I bought and read some of them, I don't know how I umpired without them.

[mbyron]

Don't forget that the purchase of those books is tax deductible, which for some of us is like a 15% discount.

[johnnyg08]

Add another $10 to ship the book...so it really is a $40 book