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[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

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MTD, Sr.

[bob jenkins]

Double forfeit.

If the state won't enforce that, then MC on the catcher.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Double forfeit.

If the state won't enforce that, then MC on the catcher.

Bob:

I agree with you. In fact it was pretty close to MC by both F2 and the Runner with Runner on the losing end of the contact.

MTD, Sr.

[umpjong]

AAh, good old fashion baseball... Thanks for bringing back the memories of youth...

But Bob's right, double forfeit. The good old days are over.....

It does appear that the runner instigated it, but then the catcher continued it by hovering over his kill. Had no fight occurred, I got both of them ejected. The runner for M/C and then the catcher for his unsportsmanlike conduct. I dont consider a glove sammich (spelled that way on purpose) M/C when the catcher is put in this situation....

[cardinalfan]

I've got an immediate ejection on the runner for MC. Ejection on the catcher for his response to the MC.

I thought the umpires did a fine job of restoring order, with the help of a deputy. But I don't see how they allowed this game to continue.

3-3-Q... A coach, player substitute, attendant or other bench personnel shall not leave their positions or bench area for the purpose of fighting or physical confrontation.
PENALTY... The umpire shall eject the offender from the game. (A coach who attempts to prevent a fight or restore order is not in violation of the rule).

If I'm in a game where both benches empty, I don't foresee allowing it to continue.

[jdmara]

Agree with Bob. No way would I be sticking around for a sequel

-Josh

[dash_riprock]

It would be easier to look in both dugouts to see who (if anyone) is NOT participating in the fight. They are the only players who are not ejected.

[jicecone]

Don't have my book in front of me and it seemed as though this was probably a playoff game (which should not matter), but what rule gives us the right to suspend the game because a fight occurs?

When the going gets tough gentlemen, do we get going?

[JR12]

Are you kidding!!!! Every player that left the bench or their position on the field, even to advance toward the fight should be ejected.
If that was done, neither team would have enough to continue the game.
My take is GAME OVER!

[UmpJM]

jicecone,

It's actually a combination of rules. 3-3-1q and 4-4-1f work for me.

JM

[waltjp]

4-4-1 A game shall be forfeited to the offended team by the umpire when
a team:

f. is unable to provide at least nine players to start the game or cannot provide eight players to finish the game


If either team has less than 8 players after all ejections the game is over.

[jwwashburn]

If three kids from each team go in a fight, I do not think anyone would say anything other than ejections.

These umpires are out of their freaking minds to continue this game. I agree with all that have said double forfeit.

I do not agree with what was said above that the umpires did a fine job of restoring order. There is no order if these kids were allowed to continue playing.

Joe in Missouri

[cardinalfan]

Originally Posted by jwwashburn

If three kids from each team go in a fight, I do not think anyone would say anything other than ejections.

These umpires are out of their freaking minds to continue this game. I agree with all that have said double forfeit.

I do not agree with what was said above that the umpires did a fine job of restoring order. There is no order if these kids were allowed to continue playing.

Joe in Missouri

I said I couldn't believe they let the game to continue.

As far as restoring order, I was simply talking about getting the fight stopped. As ugly as this was, it could have been worse if fans had gotten involved or kids had gotten hurt.

I think it's asinine that this game was allowed to continue. It doesn't matter if this was a playoff game or not, I would have stopped everything and let the state association decide what to do.

[David B]

Originally Posted by cardinalfan

I said I couldn't believe they let the game to continue.

As far as restoring order, I was simply talking about getting the fight stopped. As ugly as this was, it could have been worse if fans had gotten involved or kids had gotten hurt.

I think it's asinine that this game was allowed to continue. It doesn't matter if this was a playoff game or not, I would have stopped everything and let the state association decide what to do.

I don't agree. The umpires did a good job in an ugly situation, the coaches ended up getting order restored.

Baseball does not have the leaving the bench rule like basketball; however, I would have been writing down number of anyone who made contact with another player.

I would hope though that the state association would review, put both schools on probation and if a playoff situation, make certain that players ejected do not play the next game etc.,

For certain, F2 is ejected and runner is because of MC.

I've had a basketball brawl before and it's very ugly, but the game was able to continue without further incident.

Thanks
David

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by David B

Baseball does not have the leaving the bench rule like basketball;

3-3-1q and 3.3.1JJ (especially the part about "once F6 and the on-deck batter LEFT THEIR POSITIONS" (emphasis added) ) would seem to say that baseball does have such a rule.