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Old Tue May 12, 2009, 12:10am
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Was Dave in PERFECT position for that particular play? Maybe not. Did he get in proper position for what he had? Absolutely. Knowing Dave he will be the hardest on hisself after reviewing the play. He is an outstanding umpire and misses very few. We all miss a few during the course of a season and few have the benefit of multiple angle replays to review. Great job Dave!!!
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Old Tue May 12, 2009, 03:33am
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Let's try to reconstruct this as a lesson is '$*&% happens' so be prepared.

1. #14 scores easily. Turns and picks up the bat. Looks up and see runner & throw approaching plate.

2. PU is close to point of plate. Observes #14 score & on-deck hitter go to expected place (3BLE) to guide approaching runner.

3. PU reads play & starts moving to 1BLE. Does not anticipate previous runner that had cleared the bat t5o step back toward plate to signal approaching runner.

4. PU tangles with previous runner and is unable to reach desired position & is distracted. Likely partially blocked from play. Misses what should have been a fairly easy call.

What can we learn from this, orher than expect the unexpected?

My take: PU (Dave Y.) was too determined to reach a specific spot 1bLE that he lost his window of opportunity to adjust to the changing situation.

Let's have your thoughts as a group please.
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Old Tue May 12, 2009, 07:39am
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Let's try to reconstruct this as a lesson is '$*&% happens' so be prepared.

1. #14 scores easily. Turns and picks up the bat. Looks up and see runner & throw approaching plate.

2. PU is close to point of plate. Observes #14 score & on-deck hitter go to expected place (3BLE) to guide approaching runner.

3. PU reads play & starts moving to 1BLE. Does not anticipate previous runner that had cleared the bat t5o step back toward plate to signal approaching runner.

4. PU tangles with previous runner and is unable to reach desired position & is distracted. Likely partially blocked from play. Misses what should have been a fairly easy call.

What can we learn from this, orher than expect the unexpected?

My take: PU (Dave Y.) was too determined to reach a specific spot 1bLE that he lost his window of opportunity to adjust to the changing situation.

Let's have your thoughts as a group please.

I see what you are saying, but this was not a fairly easy call from any position. You have the runner sliding through F2's legs (always tough to see in real time), you have F2 making the catch but not applying the tag until late, (very hard to see from either 1BLE or 3BLE).

He was in the best position for a block type of play, just so happened that a player got in his way, probably at the very last second.

Thanks
David
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Old Tue May 12, 2009, 10:35am
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Actually he was passed 3BLE, and I would agree it was entirly due to the players actions. The best place to be if you were setting this up as a traditional block play and you are reading this guy sliding wide, Dave didn't get to make that read due to the player, would have been a step or two short of 3BLE, the reason is the box theory. If you are #BLE or past on this slide, you have the players body between you and the plate when he tagged it. That is why I have started using the mechanic that you see many of the big league guys using that puts you 1BLE all the way into fair territory. I think by working here you will almost always be able to slide and find your window.
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Old Tue May 12, 2009, 01:09pm
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Was Dave in PERFECT position for that particular play? Maybe not. Did he get in proper position for what he had? Absolutely. Knowing Dave he will be the hardest on hisself after reviewing the play. He is an outstanding umpire and misses very few. We all miss a few during the course of a season and few have the benefit of multiple angle replays to review. Great job Dave!!!
I would agree....(let he with no sin cast the first stone) The object of seeing plays like this is to learn from them. If you are already perfect, then good for you. If you choose to continue to get better then ponder and learn. Dave would want nothing less.
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