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Old Sun May 10, 2009, 10:44am
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Play at the Plate...your call?

This was friday night...Tex v Tex A & M
Play at the plate. Mr Yeast making the call. First video is a wider shot. 2nd is a little tighter, but seems to lean towards a safe. Was PU in the right position for this?



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Old Sun May 10, 2009, 11:02am
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This was friday night...Tex v Tex A & M
Play at the plate. Mr Yeast making the call. First video is a wider shot. 2nd is a little tighter, but seems to lean towards a safe. Was PU in the right position for this?



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Would you be asking if the call went in favor of your team?
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Old Sun May 10, 2009, 11:06am
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This was friday night...Tex v Tex A & M
Play at the plate. Mr Yeast making the call. First video is a wider shot. 2nd is a little tighter, but seems to lean towards a safe. Was PU in the right position for this?



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Maybe he would've had a better view if the runner's teammate hadn't decided to get in the way.
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Old Sun May 10, 2009, 11:15am
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Hey, uh ... excellent umpiring ... right on it ... uh, great angle ... no wonder he gets the big games.

How's that?
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Old Sun May 10, 2009, 11:31am
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Dave is an excellent umpire.

In the first video you can see that he began to move to his right to get a better angle, and then was literally pushed backwards and to his left by who appears to be the on deck batter and, consequently, had to make a call from a less than desirable angle.

Sh!t happens. The offense has themselves to blame.

Let the whining commence.
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Old Sun May 10, 2009, 12:32pm
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Would you be asking if the call went in favor of your team?
What? Well, since my "team" is the Angels...and they werent playing, Id have to give you a big fat no on that one.....

Too much lucky charms this morning? I happened to be watching the game yesterday on Fox, Yeast missed a steal at third, and they referenced the play from friday night. I was curious, so I found a couple videos and posted on here.

Just like too many others on here, making a comment that has nothing to with the OP. Where, anywhere in that post did I make any comment remotely associated with bias towards one of the teams?
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yep, offense needs to get out of the way and let the umpire make his call. we have the benefit of overhead video. PU did not. Whining does you no good here. Teach your players to get out of the way of a live play. That player had no business being where he was. Moving on. What was the call anyway? Runner looked safe since I had the advantage of not trying to look through a human to make the call from field level.
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Would you be asking if the call went in favor of your team?
He missed the call, but in real time it looks like F2 made a great play and the runner hit his leg with the tag.

Only in slow motion did i see the F2 make the tag late giving runner time to make it to home.

But, the ground view umpire could not see the F2 tag so I'm sure it looked out, and as others noted he was trying to move the runner out of the way.

He was really left in "no man" land.

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I have no sympathy for the offense "if" the umpire missed the call. The base runner that scored ahead of the play should be the one (if anyone) that hears it from the OC. I counted two Aggies standing around cluttering up the HP area. How many players are the offense allowed to have in the field of play at one time? What is required of the scoring runner once he has scored? What about the on-deck hitter? Isn't he supposed to be in the on-deck circle?
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This is the reason why I wish FED would put a rule in to keep on-deck batters and runners that just scored OFF OF THE DIRT! It seems like at least once a game I'm telling kids to get out of the way on a potential play at home because they stand very close to home plate and really get in the way.
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I have no sympathy for the offense "if" the umpire missed the call. The base runner that scored ahead of the play should be the one (if anyone) that hears it from the OC. I counted two Aggies standing around cluttering up the HP area. How many players are the offense allowed to have in the field of play at one time? What is required of the scoring runner once he has scored? What about the on-deck hitter? Isn't he supposed to be in the on-deck circle?
Usually, the on-deck batter comes to signal the runner on whether he needs to slide or not.

That said, I still think they need to be off the dirt.
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yes, but coach needs to coach their kids where to stand. In front of the umpire, is not a good idea. Off of the dirt, seems like a good plan. Also coach them to leave the bat alone.
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My initial reaction to the first video was OUT, as it appeared that the left hand of the runner got blocked off by the left leg of the catcher. Plus, the runner reached in with his right hand after getting tagged.

Factor in the teammate, that may have blocked his view, and he's way out. If it's even remotely close, and an someone, who shouldn't be there, gets in my way and blocks my view, he's going to be out.

Now I look at the different angle, and see why some might think otherwise. That's fine, but from the PUs perspective, I see an out.

p.s. there needed to be some music for those guys to dance to.
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[QUOTE=chuckfan1;600988]This was friday night...Tex v Tex A & M
Play at the plate. Mr Yeast making the call. First video is a wider shot. 2nd is a little tighter, but seems to lean towards a safe. Was PU in the right position for this?
QUOTE]3BLX seems a better position for runner coming home with throw from the left side of the field. 1BLX behind a runner who just scored and is in the umpire's way is not a good spot.
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