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Old Thu Apr 23, 2009, 10:38pm
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Okay guys...I read FED Rule 6 which state a few points about what is/isn't a balk blah, blah, blah...

Can somebody please post a case play/rule for FED that discusses the call for the following situation...

Pitcher in a legal set position. R1 breaks early for 2B...in one motion, pitcher jump turns and throws to 2B. R1 gets in rundown and is tagged out.

If we have a balk here, obviously the rundown does not occur since the balk stops everything. I'm looking for other thought on this call though

How do you rule? Balk? If so, why? If not, why?

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Old Thu Apr 23, 2009, 11:03pm
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Okay guys...I read FED Rule 6 which state a few points about what is/isn't a balk blah, blah, blah...

Can somebody please post a case play/rule for FED that discusses the call for the following situation...

Pitcher in a legal set position. R1 breaks early for 2B...in one motion, pitcher jump turns and throws to 2B. R1 gets in rundown and is tagged out.

If we have a balk here, obviously the rundown does not occur since the balk stops everything. I'm looking for other thought on this call though

How do you rule? Balk? If so, why? If not, why?

Thanks
Pitcher can jump turn to 2B to make a play on advancing runner. No balk.

6.1.3 Sit F is close as I can come to case play.;
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Old Fri Apr 24, 2009, 12:53am
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He can throw to a base that a runner is occupying or to a base that a runner is advancing to. No balk.
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Old Fri Apr 24, 2009, 01:28am
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Heck, under FED rules he can throw to a base the runner is feinting an advance to.

JohnnyG,

It is not a balk because the rules state it is permissible for the pitcher to do so.

What's the confusion?

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Old Fri Apr 24, 2009, 08:03am
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What's the throwing to an unoccupied base rule for FED...is it that he couldn't have thrown to 2B from the windup...or am I totally missing this one? I've read about this rule before, but I actually saw it for the first time last night.
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Old Fri Apr 24, 2009, 08:34am
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In FED, you can't make a pick off from the windup. He would first have to disengage.
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Heck, under FED rules he can throw to a base the runner is feinting an advance to.

JohnnyG,

It is not a balk because the rules state it is permissible for the pitcher to do so.

What's the confusion?

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I'm guessing the confusion comes from the old wive's (coach's) tale, "The pitcher can't throw to an unoccupied base."
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Old Fri Apr 24, 2009, 09:43am
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What if he doesn't throw the ball...then do we have a balk?

Sitch: R1 early breaks for 2B, RH Pitcher jump turns to 1B but doesn't throw to 1B, but then simply throws the ball to 2B

Thanks for clearing this up fellas...Locally I'm getting told balk, on here you're all saying legal. Have I seen the light? Thanks for your help.
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