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Old Mon Apr 20, 2009, 03:55pm
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Obstruction

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...With the score tied 2-2, Menchville had runners at first and second with one out. As Hunter Lewis dug in at the plate, Woodside’s Christian Burton charged from first base yelling “bunt” — even though Lewis had not squared to bunt.

Mays never delivered a pitch, but the home plate umpire called obstruction on Burton and awarded Lewis first base.
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Old Mon Apr 20, 2009, 04:14pm
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Wow. Impressive.
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hhmmm...I don't know if I would have ever came up with that outcome. I don't know about this one but I'm sure as heck not going to criticize without seeing what exactly happened

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Old Mon Apr 20, 2009, 04:23pm
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How can you obstruct the batter if no pitch is delivered?
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I am holding off until I get home and look at my books. Something seems very far-fetched here, OOO and just not correct.
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"Compton cited Rule 2, Section 22, Article 1, which states: “Obstruction is an act, intentional or unintentional, as well as physical or verbal, by a fielder … that hinders a runner or changes the pattern of play.” Compton said “runner” is interchangable with “batter” in this context."

If you use that logic, would a curve ball be obstruction?
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From the same article:

Woodside coach Kevin Hare strongly disagreed with the call. But Gerald Compton, commissioner of the Peninsula Baseball Umpires Association, said the ump got it right.

“That was an option he had available to him at the time,” Compton said. “You can opine whether it was good or bad, but it was within the realm of the options he had.”

Compton cited Rule 2, Section 22, Article 1, which states: “Obstruction is an act, intentional or unintentional, as well as physical or verbal, by a fielder … that hinders a runner or changes the pattern of play.” Compton said “runner” is interchangable with “batter” in this context.


I wonder what else is interchangeable in FED rules.
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Old Mon Apr 20, 2009, 05:04pm
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I don't think that OBS is the right call here...how did it affect the play?
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Old Mon Apr 20, 2009, 05:53pm
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Compton cited Rule 2, Section 22, Article 1, which states: “Obstruction is an act, intentional or unintentional, as well as physical or verbal, by a fielder … that hinders a runner or changes the pattern of play.” Compton said “runner” is interchangable with “batter” in this context.

I wonder what else is interchangeable in FED rules.
Exactly. You've got the batter, the batter-runner, and the runner. The batter-runner is a runner, but the batter is not, and thus cannot be obstructed.

If there's anything more idiotic than the original call, it's this attempt to justify an idiotic call.

And somebody can't spell 'interchangeable'.
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Old Mon Apr 20, 2009, 07:17pm
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Ok, came home and looked at my books and found this:

NADA


I be a thinking, Mr Commissioner is a real good dancer and is doing a good job of protecting his man. Thats fine. ?????????????.

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Old Mon Apr 20, 2009, 07:19pm
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the problem is that now yet another myth is perpetuated.
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Old Mon Apr 20, 2009, 09:55pm
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the problem is that now yet another myth is perpetuated.
This one should pass quietly, if viewers here will just let it...
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Old Mon Apr 20, 2009, 11:47pm
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hopefully
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Old Tue Apr 21, 2009, 08:14am
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...So when I played Little League back in the day and we chattered "hey batter batter" between every pitch... we could have possibly been called with obstruction if you substituted "runner" for "batter"?
I feel awful. I think I owe a lot of apologies!
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Old Tue Apr 21, 2009, 08:19am
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...So when I played Little League back in the day and we chattered "hey batter batter" between every pitch... we could have possibly been called with obstruction if you substituted "runner" for "batter"?
I feel awful. I think I owe a lot of apologies!
Only if you yelled "swing" as the pitch is delivered.

One of the leagues (5-12 year olds) in which my son calls has that rule. The defense can chatter all they want, but cannot say swing or anything that sounds like swing.
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