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Raymond Mon Apr 20, 2009 03:55pm

Obstruction
 
dailypress.com - Inside the PD

...With the score tied 2-2, Menchville had runners at first and second with one out. As Hunter Lewis dug in at the plate, Woodside’s Christian Burton charged from first base yelling “bunt” — even though Lewis had not squared to bunt.

Mays never delivered a pitch, but the home plate umpire called obstruction on Burton and awarded Lewis first base.
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mbyron Mon Apr 20, 2009 04:14pm

Wow. Impressive.

jdmara Mon Apr 20, 2009 04:15pm

hhmmm...I don't know if I would have ever came up with that outcome. I don't know about this one but I'm sure as heck not going to criticize without seeing what exactly happened

-Josh

Rich Ives Mon Apr 20, 2009 04:23pm

How can you obstruct the batter if no pitch is delivered?

jicecone Mon Apr 20, 2009 04:30pm

I am holding off until I get home and look at my books. Something seems very far-fetched here, OOO and just not correct.

BigTex Mon Apr 20, 2009 04:42pm

"Compton cited Rule 2, Section 22, Article 1, which states: “Obstruction is an act, intentional or unintentional, as well as physical or verbal, by a fielder … that hinders a runner or changes the pattern of play.” Compton said “runner” is interchangable with “batter” in this context."

If you use that logic, would a curve ball be obstruction?

dash_riprock Mon Apr 20, 2009 04:42pm

From the same article:

Woodside coach Kevin Hare strongly disagreed with the call. But Gerald Compton, commissioner of the Peninsula Baseball Umpires Association, said the ump got it right.

“That was an option he had available to him at the time,” Compton said. “You can opine whether it was good or bad, but it was within the realm of the options he had.”

Compton cited Rule 2, Section 22, Article 1, which states: “Obstruction is an act, intentional or unintentional, as well as physical or verbal, by a fielder … that hinders a runner or changes the pattern of play.” Compton said “runner” is interchangable with “batter” in this context.


I wonder what else is interchangeable in FED rules.

johnnyg08 Mon Apr 20, 2009 05:04pm

I don't think that OBS is the right call here...how did it affect the play?

mbyron Mon Apr 20, 2009 05:53pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by dash_riprock (Post 596912)
From the same article:

Compton cited Rule 2, Section 22, Article 1, which states: “Obstruction is an act, intentional or unintentional, as well as physical or verbal, by a fielder … that hinders a runner or changes the pattern of play.” Compton said “runner” is interchangable with “batter” in this context.

I wonder what else is interchangeable in FED rules.

Exactly. You've got the batter, the batter-runner, and the runner. The batter-runner is a runner, but the batter is not, and thus cannot be obstructed.

If there's anything more idiotic than the original call, it's this attempt to justify an idiotic call.

And somebody can't spell 'interchangeable'. :rolleyes:

jicecone Mon Apr 20, 2009 07:17pm

Ok, came home and looked at my books and found this:

NADA


I be a thinking, Mr Commissioner is a real good dancer and is doing a good job of protecting his man. Thats fine. ?????????????.

"I did not have sex with that woman"

johnnyg08 Mon Apr 20, 2009 07:19pm

the problem is that now yet another myth is perpetuated.

DG Mon Apr 20, 2009 09:55pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnnyg08 (Post 596931)
the problem is that now yet another myth is perpetuated.

This one should pass quietly, if viewers here will just let it...

johnnyg08 Mon Apr 20, 2009 11:47pm

hopefully

cardinalfan Tue Apr 21, 2009 08:14am

...So when I played Little League back in the day and we chattered "hey batter batter" between every pitch... we could have possibly been called with obstruction if you substituted "runner" for "batter"?
I feel awful. I think I owe a lot of apologies! :rolleyes:

Blue37 Tue Apr 21, 2009 08:19am

Quote:

Originally Posted by cardinalfan (Post 596995)
...So when I played Little League back in the day and we chattered "hey batter batter" between every pitch... we could have possibly been called with obstruction if you substituted "runner" for "batter"?
I feel awful. I think I owe a lot of apologies! :rolleyes:

Only if you yelled "swing" as the pitch is delivered.:D

One of the leagues (5-12 year olds) in which my son calls has that rule. The defense can chatter all they want, but cannot say swing or anything that sounds like swing.


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