Obvious mudball

[Tim C]

"Only issue with this is that the PU will look like the aggressor."

You worry waaaay too much about the way "things look."

Control your game . . . oops, I forgot you work for Baseball Canada where game control is handled by coaches and players (i.e. they have no clue).

Regards,

[cc6]

Originally Posted by Tim C

Control your game . . . oops, I forgot you work for Baseball Canada where game control is handled by coaches and players (i.e. they have no clue).Regards,

What causes you to say this? I think that coaches calling the shots for who gets to umpire their games and therefore umpires not controlling games is not something unique to Canada.

[HokieUmp]

Originally Posted by cc6

What causes you to say this? I think that coaches calling the shots for who gets to umpire their games and therefore umpires not controlling games is not something unique to Canada.

I can't speak for the whole country, but in my association, if a coach 'blackballed' an umpire, or tried to, he'd probably see that umpire at his next several games. Home OR Away.

Of course, that's only one association in one part of one state. So in theory, your statement that it's not unique to Canada is probably true. At the same time, it's another indication that the inmates run the asylum there.

[MrUmpire]

Originally Posted by cc6

What causes you to say this? I think that coaches calling the shots for who gets to umpire their games and therefore umpires not controlling games is not something unique to Canada.

That is not something that happens on a national level in the US. It would be unique to contries outside of the US.

Unfortunately, it occurs in isolated cases in the US, but it is not common. Even in those cases, usually a coach may black list one or two umpires a season, but he may not dictate which of the others he gets.

[SanDiegoSteve]

Originally Posted by MrUmpire

That is not something that happens on a national level in the US. It would be unique to contries outside of the US.

Unfortunately, it occurs in isolated cases in the US, but it is not common. Even in those cases, usually a coach may black list one or two umpires a season, but he may not dictate which of the others he gets.

In San Diego, the coaches are given a "scratch list" at the beginning of the season, and they can scratch anyone they want from their home games. The assignor then makes sure those coaches see the umpires they scratched at many of their road games throughout the year. The coaches may not scratch an umpire mid-season. Once the list is submitted, that's it. The coaches cannot choose the umpires they do get, but they do have "request lists" for playoff games, and those requested umpires get the first shot at those games.