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Old Wed Jan 07, 2009, 12:06pm
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On a side note, Reebok's new Vector-O bat has holes in the handle. It is supposed to reduce drag and increase bat speed by allowing air to pass through the handle.
Now that is just silly. And if the wind was from behind the hitter, the holes would slow the bat down (equally silly).
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Old Wed Jan 07, 2009, 01:06pm
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All I care about regarding bats is the BESR certification screenprint and a quick look to see if it has any dents or modifications after manufacture which garner extra attention if warranted. I don't care what it is made of or whether or not it can walk to the batter's box by itself.
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Old Wed Jan 07, 2009, 03:51pm
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The ONLY thing BESR certifies is that the exit speed meets the standard. Has no bearing on any other aspect of bat.

I suspect we will need rulings from NFHS & NCAA as to legality of the bat for play.

Until such a time IMO the Demarini is NOT legal, as it is flat sided in areas that could strike the ball.
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Old Wed Jan 07, 2009, 04:42pm
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The Dimarini bas was specifically brought up in our state NFHS rules clinic last year and I believe they mentioned it was legal.
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Old Tue Feb 03, 2009, 11:27am
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The Dimarini bas was specifically brought up in our state NFHS rules clinic last year and I believe they mentioned it was legal.
I had the rules clinic last week and this bat, the Mattingly and the Reebok were brought up.

The Dimariani is illegal
The Reebok is illegal
The Mattingly is legal
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Old Tue Feb 03, 2009, 12:14pm
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I have taught batting for many years to players at many levels. One of the very first points of emphasis when you begin instructing any hitter is the grip, and what to look for. When you grip a bat properly, you place the handle down on the pads of your fingers and gently surround it. You see a V shape where the base of your thumb meets your hand. You don't want an O shape like you see in so many hitters who wrap their hands around the bat.

So now, in order to ensure a proper grip in young, developing hitters, Donny Baseball and his development team have come up with this magnificent idea for the handle, and there are those who want to rule it illegal! Why? It's almost beyond belief.
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Old Wed Jan 07, 2009, 04:43pm
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The ONLY thing BESR certifies is that the exit speed meets the standard. Has no bearing on any other aspect of bat.
True.

All NFHS legal bats are required to be BESR certified, however, not all BESR certified bats are required to be NFHS legal.
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Old Wed Jan 07, 2009, 04:52pm
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Mattingly has this thing called the V-grip, which has also revolutionized the shape of the grip.

It only matters what shape the barrel is. If a batter hits it off the handle, it doesn't much matter what shape it is.



I'm not sure I see the problem with this thing. Look where the irregularity is>

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Old Wed Jan 07, 2009, 06:06pm
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I like any bat that gets swung often.
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Old Thu Jan 08, 2009, 04:09am
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Mattingly has this thing called the V-grip, which has also revolutionized the shape of the grip.

It only matters what shape the barrel is. If a batter hits it off the handle, it doesn't much matter what shape it is.



I'm not sure I see the problem with this thing. Look where the irregularity is>
Ah - thanks for the clarification! I was thinking much more slab sided than the picture. I don't see this as a problem, though I would like to see NCAA / NFS send out a ruling to prevent issues at game time.
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Old Thu Jan 08, 2009, 11:11am
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THAT is absolutely the problem. There will be an uninformed umpire and a coach will take advantage and the dispute will take place after a guy gets a key hit with it and ...
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Old Thu Jan 08, 2009, 04:11pm
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The ONLY thing BESR certifies is that the exit speed meets the standard. Has no bearing on any other aspect of bat.

I suspect we will need rulings from NFHS & NCAA as to legality of the bat for play.

Until such a time IMO the Demarini is NOT legal, as it is flat sided in areas that could strike the ball.

If it has the Fed stamp on it, you don't need a ruiling from the Fed as they have already ruled by placing their stamp on it.
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Old Thu Jan 08, 2009, 04:36pm
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If it has the Fed stamp on it, you don't need a ruiling from the Fed as they have already ruled by placing their stamp on it.
FED doesn't stamp bats. FED requires a BESR mark, but the bat can be illegal in other respects.
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Old Thu Jan 08, 2009, 05:21pm
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FED doesn't stamp bats. FED requires a BESR mark, but the bat can be illegal in other respects.
Once again, I'm with Dash.
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Old Thu Jan 08, 2009, 10:01pm
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Once again, I'm with Dash.
I'm a dumb arse, I was thinking like footballs and basketballs. They need Fed stamps...
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