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Old Sun Jan 04, 2009, 09:52am
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Safe in all codes. No ejection. Possibly a discussion with the player and / or coach about sliding.
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Old Sun Jan 04, 2009, 12:30pm
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Safe in all codes. No ejection. Possibly a discussion with the player and / or coach about sliding.
Agreed. This would be a "talk to" situation
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Old Sun Jan 04, 2009, 01:14pm
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There should be an ejection

Geez,

Eject the PU:
Interferes with F2,
Hat on backward,
Takes mask off with wrong hand,
"Flapping wing" safe signal,
Doesn't brush plate, uses foot to clean it.
Looked like Black hat with old style light blue shirt;
and if I looked again I could probably find more nits to pick.
Worst thing, he looks bored out of his mind, like he doesn't want to be there.
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Old Sun Jan 04, 2009, 01:27pm
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Those too-cool-to-look-like-they-want-to-be-there young umpires all need to shape up or go away until they grow up. The guy in the video is a perfect picture of everything that's wrong with these leagues that take umpiring so casually.
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Old Sun Jan 04, 2009, 01:28pm
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Geez,

Eject the PU:
Interferes with F2,
Hat on backward,
Takes mask off with wrong hand,
"Flapping wing" safe signal,
Doesn't brush plate, uses foot to clean it.
Looked like Black hat with old style light blue shirt;
and if I looked again I could probably find more nits to pick.
Worst thing, he looks bored out of his mind, like he doesn't want to be there.

I have seen that alot.
But I think it is more useful to give a younger/newer umpire advice and time to grow.
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Old Sun Jan 04, 2009, 02:07pm
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Im not gonna EJ the runner, but i will talk to him, he didnt slide with his leg up as to take somone out, yes his slide was high and ugly and late but I didnt see again wrong. JMO
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Old Sun Jan 04, 2009, 02:42pm
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Im not gonna EJ the runner, but i will talk to him, he didnt slide with his leg up as to take somone out, yes his slide was high and ugly and late but I didnt see again wrong. JMO
Watch it nine more times. It looks more and more malicious each time.
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Old Sun Jan 04, 2009, 11:46pm
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Watch it nine more times. It looks more and more malicious each time.

Watched it about 10 times and he started to slide before the batters box, yes he jumped, but I don't think it was malicious, and this is just my opinion nothing more.
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Old Sun Jan 04, 2009, 02:40pm
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Advice is dismissed, because the young player/umpire knows all he needs to know about playing and umpiring. He needs to go away until he grows up.

There are those who heed advice of course, and those guys I help to no end with advice, equipment, accessories, uniforms, etc. I've done my part, and there are many young guys who are right for umpiring and can and should be brought along.

But the guys like the guy in the video and most of the ones who look like him are not open to advice or criticism and should go away before they hurt the vocation and the game any more than they have.
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Old Sun Jan 04, 2009, 02:51pm
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But the guys like the guy in the video and most of the ones who look like him are not open to advice or criticism and should go away before they hurt the vocation and the game any more than they have.
Oh, my.
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Old Sun Jan 04, 2009, 05:29pm
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Oh, my.
Why do you think people show up day one to watch their kids play ball in high school with a dreadful opinion of umpires and the vocation? Half the hell we catch from those clown parents is because of prejudices that are formed watching slouches like that guy.

More clinics; more mentorships; more equipment; higher fees; more responsible supervisors---those are some of the things that are needed.
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Old Sun Jan 04, 2009, 02:51pm
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Safe, no ej. I've seen this "hop-slide" at lower levels before. I put it in the same realm as diving headfirst into first base. No matter how stupid it is, some people are still going to do it.
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Old Mon Jan 05, 2009, 12:33pm
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We really can pick this PU apart but why? Strong possibility these kids would not be playing if not for this volunteer. Many youth Leagues rely totally on volunteer umpires to keep participation fees affordable for everyone. Now, if I knew for a fact that he was collecting a game fee, I believe I would have more a problem with the instructional chair of his group than the ump. Just my dos pesos.
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Old Mon Jan 05, 2009, 01:50pm
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We really can pick this PU apart but why? Strong possibility these kids would not be playing if not for this volunteer. Many youth Leagues rely totally on volunteer umpires to keep participation fees affordable for everyone. Now, if I knew for a fact that he was collecting a game fee, I believe I would have more a problem with the instructional chair of his group than the ump. Just my dos pesos.
The league that I referred to is in an affluent area, does pay its umpires, and does have an instructor/supervisor. And still these kids who have little or no respect for the game are thrown out there with little training and orientation to stain the diamond just to save a buck.

The same parents for whom the leagues are trying to keep things affordable are the first people to complain about how horrible the umpiring is. It's a joke. If the priority is keeping the playing fees low, then the priorities are skewed.

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