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Old Sun Jan 04, 2009, 12:02am
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In HS or HS age level game, I have the runner safe and then ejected. His intent wasn't to just reach the plate safely. He wanted to take someone out.


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Old Sun Jan 04, 2009, 01:30am
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In HS or HS age level game, I have the runner safe and then ejected. His intent wasn't to just reach the plate safely. He wanted to take someone out.
In HS level, yes. However, these looked like smaller kids, so it's possible he hasn't perfected the fine art of sliding.
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Old Sun Jan 04, 2009, 09:52am
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Safe in all codes. No ejection. Possibly a discussion with the player and / or coach about sliding.
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Old Sun Jan 04, 2009, 12:30pm
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Safe in all codes. No ejection. Possibly a discussion with the player and / or coach about sliding.
Agreed. This would be a "talk to" situation
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Old Sun Jan 04, 2009, 01:14pm
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There should be an ejection

Geez,

Eject the PU:
Interferes with F2,
Hat on backward,
Takes mask off with wrong hand,
"Flapping wing" safe signal,
Doesn't brush plate, uses foot to clean it.
Looked like Black hat with old style light blue shirt;
and if I looked again I could probably find more nits to pick.
Worst thing, he looks bored out of his mind, like he doesn't want to be there.
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Old Sun Jan 04, 2009, 01:27pm
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Those too-cool-to-look-like-they-want-to-be-there young umpires all need to shape up or go away until they grow up. The guy in the video is a perfect picture of everything that's wrong with these leagues that take umpiring so casually.
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Old Sun Jan 04, 2009, 01:28pm
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Geez,

Eject the PU:
Interferes with F2,
Hat on backward,
Takes mask off with wrong hand,
"Flapping wing" safe signal,
Doesn't brush plate, uses foot to clean it.
Looked like Black hat with old style light blue shirt;
and if I looked again I could probably find more nits to pick.
Worst thing, he looks bored out of his mind, like he doesn't want to be there.

I have seen that alot.
But I think it is more useful to give a younger/newer umpire advice and time to grow.
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Old Sun Jan 04, 2009, 02:07pm
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Im not gonna EJ the runner, but i will talk to him, he didnt slide with his leg up as to take somone out, yes his slide was high and ugly and late but I didnt see again wrong. JMO
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Old Sun Jan 04, 2009, 02:40pm
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Advice is dismissed, because the young player/umpire knows all he needs to know about playing and umpiring. He needs to go away until he grows up.

There are those who heed advice of course, and those guys I help to no end with advice, equipment, accessories, uniforms, etc. I've done my part, and there are many young guys who are right for umpiring and can and should be brought along.

But the guys like the guy in the video and most of the ones who look like him are not open to advice or criticism and should go away before they hurt the vocation and the game any more than they have.
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Old Sun Jan 04, 2009, 02:51pm
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Safe, no ej. I've seen this "hop-slide" at lower levels before. I put it in the same realm as diving headfirst into first base. No matter how stupid it is, some people are still going to do it.
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Old Mon Jan 05, 2009, 12:33pm
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We really can pick this PU apart but why? Strong possibility these kids would not be playing if not for this volunteer. Many youth Leagues rely totally on volunteer umpires to keep participation fees affordable for everyone. Now, if I knew for a fact that he was collecting a game fee, I believe I would have more a problem with the instructional chair of his group than the ump. Just my dos pesos.
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Old Sun Jan 04, 2009, 10:17am
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In HS or HS age level game, I have the runner safe and then ejected. His intent wasn't to just reach the plate safely. He wanted to take someone out.


Tim.
Happy New year, Tim.

Why would the kid be ejected ?
What did I miss ?
He slid late, though a little late.
Thanks.
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Old Sun Jan 04, 2009, 10:28am
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In HS or HS age level game, I have the runner safe and then ejected. His intent wasn't to just reach the plate safely. He wanted to take someone out.


Tim.


I'm sorry, but that kid was just doing a late plate slide. He wasn't trying to take anybody out. If a seasoned player slides that late and makes contact, there's a different situation. But if a seasoned player sticks a straight leg slide a little earlier, and clears the catcher out of the way below the knee, that's good baseball. That's how it's supposed to be taught and executed. But this kid needs sliding lessons like the man said.
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Old Sun Jan 04, 2009, 11:41am
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I have nothing
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Old Sun Jan 04, 2009, 06:01pm
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In HS or HS age level game, I have the runner safe and then ejected. His intent wasn't to just reach the plate safely. He wanted to take someone out.


Tim.
How can you possibly justify an ejection. He slid between the catchers legs and hardly made contact. Looks to me he was trying to avoid contact. I've got nothing.
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