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tip184 Sat Jan 03, 2009 10:52pm

You make the call
 
YouTube - The Slide of the Century

BigUmp56 Sun Jan 04, 2009 12:02am

In HS or HS age level game, I have the runner safe and then ejected. His intent wasn't to just reach the plate safely. He wanted to take someone out.


Tim.

yawetag Sun Jan 04, 2009 01:30am

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigUmp56 (Post 564090)
In HS or HS age level game, I have the runner safe and then ejected. His intent wasn't to just reach the plate safely. He wanted to take someone out.

In HS level, yes. However, these looked like smaller kids, so it's possible he hasn't perfected the fine art of sliding.

bob jenkins Sun Jan 04, 2009 09:52am

Safe in all codes. No ejection. Possibly a discussion with the player and / or coach about sliding.

mick Sun Jan 04, 2009 10:17am

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigUmp56 (Post 564090)
In HS or HS age level game, I have the runner safe and then ejected. His intent wasn't to just reach the plate safely. He wanted to take someone out.


Tim.

Happy New year, Tim. :)

Why would the kid be ejected ?
What did I miss ?
He slid late, though a little late.
Thanks.

Kevin Finnerty Sun Jan 04, 2009 10:28am

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigUmp56 (Post 564090)
In HS or HS age level game, I have the runner safe and then ejected. His intent wasn't to just reach the plate safely. He wanted to take someone out.


Tim.

:D

I'm sorry, but that kid was just doing a late plate slide. He wasn't trying to take anybody out. If a seasoned player slides that late and makes contact, there's a different situation. But if a seasoned player sticks a straight leg slide a little earlier, and clears the catcher out of the way below the knee, that's good baseball. That's how it's supposed to be taught and executed. But this kid needs sliding lessons like the man said.

btdt Sun Jan 04, 2009 11:41am

I have nothing

umpduck11 Sun Jan 04, 2009 11:48am

Looks to me like the kid forgot he was playing baseball, not martial arts. I agree with Mr. Jenkins; ejection unwarranted, but a word to the player or coach.
Then I would buy some plate shoes, turn my hat around, and learn to remove my mask with my left hand. :D

Kevin Finnerty Sun Jan 04, 2009 11:56am

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Originally Posted by umpduck11 (Post 564192)
Looks to me like the kid forgot he was playing baseball, not martial arts. I agree with Mr. Jenkins; ejection unwarranted, but a word to the player or coach.
Then I would buy some plate shoes, turn my hat around, and learn to remove my mask with my left hand. :D

And maybe not walk right into the catcher's path.

BigUmp56 Sun Jan 04, 2009 12:02pm

I stand by my initial assessment. This wasn't a late slide, in my opinion. The runner left his feet a full 10'-12' up the baseline and intentionally attempted to kick at the fielder attempting to make the play. I'm not going to allow it in a game I'm working. Players


Tim.

Kevin Finnerty Sun Jan 04, 2009 12:29pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigUmp56 (Post 564201)
I stand by my initial assessment. This wasn't a late slide, in my opinion. The runner left his feet a full 10'-12' up the baseline and intentionally attempted to kick at the fielder attempting to make the play. I'm not going to allow it in a game I'm working. Players


Tim.

I have watched it 10 more times and it gets a little worse every time. I am leaning more toward your side---a lot more.

Like you, I would also have a very low tolerance and a stern warning issued to the coach. That guy leaped into the air.

bossman72 Sun Jan 04, 2009 12:30pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 564153)
Safe in all codes. No ejection. Possibly a discussion with the player and / or coach about sliding.

Agreed. This would be a "talk to" situation

jkumpire Sun Jan 04, 2009 01:14pm

There should be an ejection
 
Geez,

Eject the PU:
Interferes with F2,
Hat on backward,
Takes mask off with wrong hand,
"Flapping wing" safe signal,
Doesn't brush plate, uses foot to clean it.
Looked like Black hat with old style light blue shirt;
and if I looked again I could probably find more nits to pick.
Worst thing, he looks bored out of his mind, like he doesn't want to be there.

Kevin Finnerty Sun Jan 04, 2009 01:27pm

Those too-cool-to-look-like-they-want-to-be-there young umpires all need to shape up or go away until they grow up. The guy in the video is a perfect picture of everything that's wrong with these leagues that take umpiring so casually.

mick Sun Jan 04, 2009 01:28pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by jkumpire (Post 564231)
Geez,

Eject the PU:
Interferes with F2,
Hat on backward,
Takes mask off with wrong hand,
"Flapping wing" safe signal,
Doesn't brush plate, uses foot to clean it.
Looked like Black hat with old style light blue shirt;
and if I looked again I could probably find more nits to pick.
Worst thing, he looks bored out of his mind, like he doesn't want to be there.

:(
I have seen that alot.
But I think it is more useful to give a younger/newer umpire advice and time to grow.


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